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Old 03-13-2012, 09:15 AM   #16
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I would like to share my story with you all between me and bed bugs..

I have been bitten for the last eight months. I kind of figured it was bed bugs, but my boyfriend or my children did not get bit. I searched my bed and found nothing. It wasn't until my daughter slept in my bed and woke with bites that i knew it had to be BED BUGS. I researched the little critters online and I found a lot of helpful solutions green rubbing alcohol was my first step. Then I vacuumed my entire bed and then I brought a streamer machine and steamed my bed and i bought vinyl covers and that was the end of my problems........luckily I did not have an infestation.
Did you identify that you had bed bugs and not fleas or ticks by the way? Not sure where you live or if you have pets but you mentioned your boyfriend was not being bitten. Bed bugs seem not to be selective. We could tell when the dogs needed flea treatment when my girlfriend would wake up bitten. They never bothered me.

The good news about bed bugs is they do not seem to carry any diseases or cause illnesses. Of course if you scratch the bites you expose them to the possibility of infection. Fleas and especially ticks can be a different story. Even people in NYC got lyme disease when pigeons carried infected ticks from the wilds into town.

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Old 09-14-2012, 05:38 AM   #17
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Hello, I moved in recently into a new flat, and I am thinking (but I'm not sure) that I have a problem with bed bugs. There are three red spots on my arm and they are incredibly itching. I went to the pharmacy, lady gave me some powder for that. I suppose that I have to check bed and use those expensive vacuum cleaner. Does anyone have more propositions?
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Old 09-14-2012, 09:07 AM   #18
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Long ago, according to a book I have about CO, Indians and ranchers would kick over a cone shaped anthill. The red ants would flood to the surface. Then a bedbug infested mattress would be placed on the anthill. The ants would remove all the bedbugs. People would put the legs of their bed in bowls with water or even kerosene.

Bedbugs can live with pets, squirrels, raccoons, pigeons, rats, bats, swallows and on. You need a microscope and a technical bug guide to distinguish between a bedbug, batbug or swallowbug. They look the same to the naked eye.

Gentrol, unfortunately, is not on the consumer market. I use it as insurance since it makes immature bedbugs sexually sterile.

The bedbug has a chemical it uses to deaden pain so the bite does not feel like a mosquito bite. That is part of the reason some people will get a little red mark where bitten. Some people show no mark. I do not think 2 people in the same bed in a bedbug infested room would not both be bitten. They don't run, jump, hop, or fly. And I don't think they climb over one person to get to the other. Some people are just more sensitive to the bite.

They usually live very close to the bed. If a person moves from the bed to the couch, it takes a couple weeks for the bedbugs to find where the person went.

Since multi unit dwellings are connected with plumbing, heating, and electricity, those become bedbug pathways, as well as hallways, stairways, and elevators.

I do not think bedbugs go longer than about 6 months without a blood meal. No blood, no eggs. Now ticks go a lot longer, but they also lay a lot more eggs at once than bedbugs.
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Old 09-16-2012, 04:26 AM   #19
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Ok, I will start cleaning my room and bed
where can I find Gentrol if it's not on a consumer market? Is there some efficient non-chemical approach in exterminating bed bugs?
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Old 09-16-2012, 08:41 AM   #20
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Google Gentrol. Plenty of places to buy it.
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Old 09-16-2012, 09:22 AM   #21
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Ok, I will start cleaning my room and bed
where can I find Gentrol if it's not on a consumer market? Is there some efficient non-chemical approach in exterminating bed bugs?
See my first page post on City of Chicago recommendations that seem to be having some effect. It does not require much money except for the dryer and dry cleaner but does require that you complete everything and remain diligent.

Of all of the listed? My elderly neighbor across the hall had a major problem and I have never seen a single one in my unit. For him we got rid of lots of the clutter they could be hiding in (traumatic for him), we ran all his closet and drawer clothing through the dryer (or dry cleaner) and sealed all in bags until done completely with all (and all us dry new clothes first thing), we bought bed bug covers for mattresses (cheaper online than in stores here), and we were diligent about frequent vacuuming and especially with a crevice tool around baseboards and on top and under mattress and upholstery seams. We moved and vacuumed under all furniture. We emptied and cleaned the vacuum container after each use and stuffed the end of the hose in case some bugs survived. We extraction cleaned carpeting. He has not seen one in over a year!

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Old 09-16-2012, 09:35 AM   #22
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When I lived in Chicago before and left in 1989, I never heard about bed bugs. I moved back January 2010 and they are absolutely everywhere---even luxury offices.

My uncle is an exterminator, and he said that the government outlawed chlordane in 1988, which is why bedbugs made such an impressive comeback. That seems fits your timeline.
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My uncle is an exterminator, and he said that the government outlawed chlordane in 1988, which is why bedbugs made such an impressive comeback. That seems fits your timeline.
Lots of good pesticides had to be removed from the market because people, mainly diyers, were overmixing them and overusing them without proper equipment and protection. DDT is something my Mom, Aunt and grandfather used to talk about using growing up. There is some talk of bringing the use of some back, temporarily, but only under strict license to qualified exterminators.

Meanwhile, I think I mentioned elsewhere on the site, some exterminators are having success with extreme temperature treatments---either cold or hot. The deal is homeowners, hotel managers, etc. have to do their part and de-clutter and dry all clothing for things to work. Temperature treatment is also a contact method so you need to know where they are.
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It is not chlordane that was used for bedbugs, it is DDT. All bedding materials were treated with DDT. They would dip sheep in a DDT bath prior to cutting off the wool too. Chlordane was used for termites and outdoors, not indoors during my involvement. Chlordane and DDT are entirely different from each other chemically.

Good to hear that googling Gentrol results in locations to obtain it. I haven't needed it for years, and used to obtain it from my chemical supplier, not the big box. I have never seen it there and just jumped to a conlusion that it was still difficult to obtain.
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Thanks guys. I'll go with washing and vacuuming for a start. I have child and animals so I'm trying to skip chemicals as much as I can.
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Bed Bugs can't walk on smooth plastic. Encase you mattress. Place a clear plastic sheet between the mattress and box spring. Plastic is on rolls at Osh hardware. The plastic overhang should be about 4 inches all around the mattress. The Bed Bugs cannot get to you and will starve. Your bed must be a proper bed. No covers touching the walls, etc.
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Old 10-12-2012, 07:47 PM   #27
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I try to use Suspend SC at home whenever I need to spray something. It does not smell and will not stain anything, which is nice. It is also not very toxic and harmless to humans/pets once it is dried.
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Bed Bugs can't walk on smooth plastic. Encase your mattress. Place a clear plastic sheet between the mattress and box spring. Plastic is on rolls at Osh hardware. The plastic overhang should be about 4 inches all around the boxspring. The Bed Bugs cannot get to you and will starve. Your bed must be a proper bed. No covers touching the walls, etc. Also this treatment works well with Subdued light.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/5253887...05/7318050308/ If, you can kill the eggs at your bed, that is the key. If you determined heat treatment is too dangerous or expensive, now what ? The big picture is you have a ranch, your're raising Bed Bugs and using your bed as a corral. First, spray your bed or encase the bed to kill the eggs so you won't be overwhelmed. Second, Make sure there are no problems with your bed. Nothing about your bed can be allowed the touch the wall or floor, but the caster wheels. Third, the new corral for the Bed Bugs is a dim light going 24/7 where the Bed Bugs can be drawn to and removed with masking tape. Fourth, you spray the ceiling-wall line on two of the most distant walls from the dim light to move the Bed Bugs toward the light. Notes: Do not spray near the dim light or any other location, that will create a barrier to keep them from coming to the light. This dim light is most likely for life. As new Bed Bugs arrive at your home they will go to the light. Bed Bugs are drawn to you like Bees, by your Co2. A fan moving air near your bed will mix your Co2 evenly in your bedroom, making it hard for Bed Bugs to find you. Every other day a light spray on your bed caster wheels will protect you. Those in the Bed Bug business won't be needed anymore. Please beware of baised replies from them.This method seems to be the "Silver Bullet" for Bed Bugs. This lure will provide detection, control for the home and car. The poorest people will be able to handle their infestations. This DIY project can be done for a very small cost of parts. This is a very "Green" method. For all living places and whole house treatment, the hallways will become giant traps. The lights are there, a $5.00 dimmer switch is needed and spray. Lightly place DE on hall traffic areas where people put their foot down. Careful: My new kitten made a mistake, near the light. I moved the litter box there. Later I found a live Bed Bug in it. When the Bed Bugs stop coming to the light, they're gone, for now. If you have total control, you'll have complete relief. The Dim lights double for night lights and Bed Bug control. Bed Bugs are not exclusively Nocturnal. When light is used as a lure, this will lead to the downfall of Bed Bugs. Bed Bugs like darkness and subdued light. When you provide subdued light in the darkness they will go there. Search Google... Bed Bugs+ Subdued light. Bedbuggers Bed Bug forum is Overrun with Pest Control Operators who control the site to promote their Bed Bug Businesses. The web site is run by a host who has no knowledge of Bed Bugs and has sold her soul to them for information from them and to give herself credibility.Anybody who has any information to offer, that might interfere with Pest Control Operators ability to promote themselves will be surpressed to keep the information from being made available to the public. All treatments for Bed Bugs must be done by a professional and victims who suffer can do nothing to help themselves,is a lie. The public is being terrorized with false information. Persons making money from Bed Bugs,don't want, DIY Subdued lighting treatment, to be true. What is it? Has there been a cover-up? How could so many people in the Pest control business not know that Bed Bugs are attracted to light. Don't they look? Don't they want to know? How could they let so many people suffer? It's a scandal. How could reseachers not know? Is this how the World is? It's disgusting. Insects having negative phototropism show an identical reaction, but only when they are subjected to a rapid increase of light. The bedbug is, as we know, energetically photophobic; it hides in the darkest cracks and leaves only during the night. In the daytime, says Bohn, if an accident has brought it from the shade into the light, it immediately executes a rotation of 180 degrees, which brings it into the shadow. On a sheet of paper it walks away from the luminous rays and turns about immédiately when one holds a candle toward it. "It is very difficult," adds Bohn, "to make a bedbug which is on black paper pass over upon a piece of white paper. Anytime a Bed Bug is startled with a handheld candle or light of course it's going to run and hide. A Bed Bug chooses a white paper over other colors when not disturbed. Negative phototropism testing is flawed. Bed Bugs have Positve Phototropism. Vintage - "Bedbugs", US Dept of Agriculture, 1937
Leaflet No. 146. Great 8 page, illustrated leaflet stating, "Bedbugs are normally nocturnal. When the lights are out they emerge from their daytime hiding places and seek to feed upon their host. Sometimes, when very hungry, they will feed during the daytime in subdued light. Their normally nocturnal habit is modified necessarily when they infest furniture in rest rooms in stores, theater seats, desks in offices, and similar situations that are not frequented by man throughout the night. In such places bedbugs often bite persons during the day." Bed Bug Statements:Bed bugs are nocturnal, but may feed during the day in areas with reduced lighting such as theaters when no hosts are present at night. Currently. Cornell University says, "Bed bugs can be enticed to bite during the day if light is subdued and they are hungry."
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I do not accept that bed bugs cannot walk on smooth plastic. What is smooth? I have seen them on glass and plastic. The plastic mattress cover is covered with bedding (you do not use the plastic as the bedding). How can a plastic covered mattress with bedding covering the plastic prevent bed bugs from getting to their dinner?

I have treated apartments with plastic wrapped mattresses. The tenants still were being bitten in bed. The plastic does reduce the number of areas where they will reside and lay eggs. This is the seams, buttons, and holes.

I use Suspend SC and mix gentrol with it. One thing about the pesticides is that they are tiny crystals that are on the surface after the water has soaked into or evaporated from the treated area. An insect which crosses it will carry it. If it is not an encapsulated or crystal like form, the bug must have a longer contact time to get a lethal dose. Most bedbug pesticides are repellent.

Vacuums will remove pesticides. Gentrol soaks in and hence is not removed when vacuumed. I suggest a thorough cleaning prior to application of any pesticide. Then wait about a week to 10 days before it is vacuumed again. If you still see bedbugs in that time, you missed something.

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I've had a little experience in getting rid of bed bugs in my apartment. I was also on the board for a large building that had a bed bug problem. From the research the board did, it wasn't worthwhile to hire professionals to get rid of bedbugs. Most give a 30-90 day warranty and it's too easy to have them come back right after the warranty period.

In my place I setup traps underneath all of the cushioned furniture and that worked pretty well. Start with your bed because they feed on your blood. Cover the mattress and set the traps underneath the legs. Make sure the bed isn't touching the wall. Once your bed is safe, I think it's much more maneagable from there.

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