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Old 10-29-2013, 12:35 AM   #31
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Okay blowing the dust off of this one.....literally lol - Sheetrock dust gets EVERYWHERE...Bout done with the drywall etc in the back and ready to do the switcheroo and move back into the bedroom.

Anyhoo, below is a updated rough plan. The plan is not 100% to scale, I broke my mouse but it gives a fair idea of where we are headed.

I have been able to convince (read wear down ) the other half to move the fridge over to the window side and near the sink. This will make the triangle better and the island will not be such a barrier island.

I cannot flip the island as previously suggested as we would really restrict the aisles or have to make the island really small. I am getting quotes on getting power to the island. Have not made up my mind on that one yet.

I am planning on having a small thin shelf unit facing the dining room as the end cap of the fridge. That way It won't be a huge honking wall at the end of the run. I think we will end up with 2 feet of landing to the right of the fridge so I think that will be sufficient.

Some definite decisions this far based on the chef of the house.

White plain inset shaker style painted cabinets on perimeter.
Uppers will be glass on the window wall
Island will be darker colour with beadboard surround.
By moving the fridge we wont be able to extend the window but I can live with that.
Floor will be a darker tile and then border and then different lighter tile throughout the rest of the house.
Storage pantry will be for big pots and small appliances etc and dog food.
Food pantry will be for people food.

Two Knots..if you are out there, can you tell me what the rough dimensions of the archway is at your daughters house into the dining room and how far in the edges of it are? We are blowing out half the wall on the living room side to open it up and will be dressing that up some. Trying to see if I can incorporate something similar on the dining area side an I really liked what they did.

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Old 10-29-2013, 07:40 AM   #32
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I haven't been in on any of the previous designs, but have you considered a peninsula instead of the island? It would have much better traffic flow and aisle clearance. Move the fridge across the aisle and turn the island to a peninsula by connecting it with the sink side.

Inset cabinet is a premium choice that's usually at least 20% above full overlay. Paint is also a premium choice. And despite the current popularity of white kitchens (I did one in my showroom after all) it's kinda difficult to integrate the popular all white look into the rest of the home. The kitchen shouldn't look like it's in a completely different house! You need to be sure that you use white significantly as a color in the rest of the home to tie it all together.



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Old 10-29-2013, 11:16 AM   #33
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Robyn, I don't know how big the opening is between the cooking area
and the breakfast room...I guess the opening itself is 12 feet.

I love your layout...It very much resembles our daughters layout.
She has 9 foot ceilings and all the cabs go all the way up.

Your stove is on the same wall as hers, she has gas stove and an
electric wall oven warming oven and micro on the left of


The island top is American cherry...They have all dark cherry furniture in the house.
You can see a peek into the breakfast room -- the stools and
furniture is cherry.
The family room (the big opening on the left) is cherry color as well. The living room
(the opening on the right with the French doors) is the LR
...both the
furniture in the LR and DR is dark cherry furniture... As I remember your DR is

The cabs on eitherb side of the stove are great, as it makes the spices easy to find.




This is the stove, above the hood are more cabs that go up to ]

The white swinging door to the right of the wall oven is the entrance
to the DR from

The fridge is to the left of the French door that leads to the foyer.
The door with the bulletin board is the basement door.

As you can see the kitchen is "the heart of the home" in this house.
The kitchen has entry ways into the LR, DR, Foyer, Family Room,
Mud Room, Basement etc...
The new cherry doors in the entry way have since been stained dark
in keeping with the cherry furniture in both the LR and DR.

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Ok, just found this one, I'd say the breakfast room is 12 feet

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Robyn, in the family room is the old Island, against the wall
(waiting to be picked up by good-will)
It was smaller than her current one and had wheels
that locked. Although, I think your kitchen is big enough to handle
a stationary Island -- it is an option to consider.

My son-in-law is a weekend gourmet cook My daughter says, she just stays out of his way
and lets him cook up a storm.

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I just want to mention, although the cabs look very white in the photos,
they are actually a creamy white. The fridge has two freezer drawers.

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Live Oak,

I understand the comments re the peninsular but the way our house runs that would be more of a barrier than the island. There was a short peninsular and an island in the original kitchen and the peninsular was a barrier to me. With this plan I can enter either by the garage door or the fridge door and immediately be able access where I need to be.

If you look further up the post you will see the house floor plan and what we have now (designer it aint). We pretty much have a blank slate on the whole house. We access the house from the door by where the fridge will be a lot and I want to keep that area open if at all possible. I also understand about too much white. We are breaking that up with the darker colored island and using glass doors for some uppers. We also have (or will have) lots of white throughout the house.

No issues with the choices and upgrades per as we are building our own so not that much of a difference.


TK

Thanks so much for posting the pictures again. I have saved them this time I REALLY like what they have done and hope to incorporate some of that with this build.

Apart from some antiques the only stuff that survived was the dining room furniture and I saved for years for that so yup I am a keepin it. It is a warm brown but not too dark so should be okay. I am hoping to match the island to the finish on this set. I do have to rebuild the table top as this was sitting on its side when the water hit as we had just moved in...(welcome to Mississippi) we hadn't even unpacked yet. I am thankful everyday that all the tools just happened to be up high which is why we have been able to do so much with what we have.

I moved one of the tables that we have as a temp kitchen into where the island will be (to make room for a chop saw ....every kitchen MUST have one of these - Rigid orange is oh so "IN" right now .

We have had it there for a while now and have not had any issues with the flow, although our temp fridge is in the garage so can't speak to that being by the sink but it will definitely be a shorter trek to go get the milk.

Will post some elevations that I put together last night for some input.
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Okay 4 elevations so will post them one at a time. I have used excel for many a thing but have to say this is a first for me with cabinet elevations.

We do not have any corner cabinets in any of these right now as I am not sure what we are going to do with the corners. May even end up just closing them off. These are not to scale exactly but if you count 1 square to 5 inches it will be a rough estimate.

Garage wall Elevation. This will be his cooking zone. Has a boatload of spices and oils etc so need lots of storage for that. The tall cabinet A will store his really LARGE trays that will not fit under regular cabinet drawer combo.
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Sink Wall.

We will be using the temporary appliances for a little bit but I have planned all of these elevations for the ones I really want. Have the specs on those so will have plenty of room as necessary.

This area is for day to day dishes and glasses and clean up. I need the dishwasher on the left as I am the chief bottle washer and if I have it on the right it will be close to him cooking at the stove so do not want the trip hazard if the door is open.

Scale is a little out on this one due to moving stuff but again roughly 5 inches to a square. There is plenty of room for the dishwasher although on the plan it looks like there is not.
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Okay so excel does not like pantries lol. The two pantries will be roughly 4 feet wide. These will not be cabinets but will have the doors to match the cabinets.

The storage one is for all the small appliances and large pots and pans....and we have some LARGE pots and pans that will not go into drawers. Also have some heavy casserole dishes. This is also where the dog food will be stored.

The food one is exactly that.

The wine fridge was on top of the old fridge by accident and thus made it. I scored a wine rack at a surplus store for free (actually I paid a buck for it lol) and will be refinishing that. We have not made the decision on where the wall will be opened up above this area yet so if necessary I can add uppers or open shelves.
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Aaaaannnndddd finally the island.

Sink Side - This is where the prep will be. I am trying to put the taters and onions in those sliding baskets. if I cant build them I will just have cubbies and baskets in them. This is also where the daily eating utensils will be.

The dining room end will be for cookbooks.

The living room side is pretty free right now but wanted to have some closed cabinets. This side will be roughly 16 in depth so good for pretty much anything

forgot to mention uppers will probably be 36" not quite to the ceiling but not short either.

Any major no nos with any of these?

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I had some down time this morning, so I sketched it up. The bonus about the peninsula is that whomever is cooking has a protected cockpit for their work, and traffic passes through. It also gives visitors a place to sit, and the snack zone of the MW and fridge can be accessed by those from outside the kitchen.
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Wow Live Oak. Thank you very much for your time and the plan. I will show this to the chef and report back.
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The other thing I wanted to mention is that if your 156" dimension is correct, you don't have room for the fridge next to the DW as it needs at least an 1 1/2" filler and side panel to support a countertop there, and I only used a 33" farm sink base (slightly off center), not a full sized 36" sink base. Or, at least there's not room if you want the sink centered on the window and want a full sized sink. To panel in the fridge also requires at least 39" (two panels on the side with 1 1/2" attached fillers). You're about 8" short for the fridge there with the given dimensions.

So, is that dimension actually correct? Could the window move? Or the door? Or would you be OK with having the sink off center from the window even more?
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Live Oak. No those measurements are not correct, in fact I think they are less. I cannot get to the corner of the kitchen but will have access this weekend to get exact measurements.

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