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Old 05-19-2017, 04:26 PM   #1
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Re-caning DR Chairs ... WITH BURLAP!


Yup - decorative / printed burlap, from JoAnn Fabric. Y'all might dig this.

I don't know if it will even work, but I'm gonna' try here.

Pic 1 - the problem. Cane needs butter (it's TOAST).

Pic 2 - Burlap beaded into place in the Top, DRY-FIT into the Bottom, while I work the Sisal Twine down the sides (I hope).

Pic 3 might better show Sisal Twine in bead / perimeter...

Real Q that I hope someone here has experience with, is can I count on any shrinkage in the Burlap, if I spray with water and do a hot blow dry?????

More details + pics in a moment here (thinking hard on this - see my CPU smoking )
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Old 05-19-2017, 04:37 PM   #2
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Alright; some details, might help me think of something as I go here...

Chairs are 40 years old, frames are great (although I will re-finish with Poly when done).

I un-raveled 3/16" Sisal Twine to 1/16" lengths. It goes into the groove well.

Removing the old cane / bead was a BEAR. I then took a Dremel Tool, and cleaned out the groove.

I sunk the bead across the Top, but did NOT tightly stretch the Burlap across. ??? Then I put a short Sisal strip across part of the Bottom groove, RELATIVELY tightly.

Now, I'm gonna' try to continue from the Top, alternating down the sides, pulling the Burlap tightly, crossways, to the Bottom Corners, then remove the DRY-FIT Sisal at the Bottom, and continue to the Bottom middle.

THEN, I'll carefully drip some THINNED Polyurethane into the Sisal bead. (edit; THEN cut excess Burlap from the perimeter, with a Single Edge Razor)

When dry, I'll re-Poly the chair, with the hardened Poly Sisal perimeter ALSO sanded down.

Finally, I'll spray the Burlap with water, and HOT blow dry to shrink / tighten.

Thoughts? Anyone been here before???

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Old 05-19-2017, 05:44 PM   #3
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Working down the sides here...

Fabric is working in pretty tight; it's actually pulling the opposite side OUT. Once back in on the other side, and set with Poly, we MIGHT not have to worry too much about shrinking it ...
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Old 05-19-2017, 05:57 PM   #4
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At bottom, both sides, read to pull temp piece here, and run side lengths of Sisal to the middle of the bottom...

(if you're scared to feedback on this, just say so? )
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Old 05-19-2017, 06:08 PM   #5
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It seems that the ORIGINAL GROOVE, in which the cane is beaded into place, is made deep enough to pull tight ANY material, as it is 'set' with the bead.

Fingers crossed. And eyes crossed, teeth, toes, hair, etc., ... got 'em ALL crossed....................................
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Old 05-19-2017, 06:12 PM   #6
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That's quite a challenge.

If I were doing it I would probably consider making a rope of the Sisal.

Don't know much about burlap shrinkage because I just fed hogs, calves and chickens from those burlap sacks. Could you test shrinkage on scrap pieces.
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13-0 ; is that a rope size there SS?

I bought 3/16" Sisal; was way to big. By the time I un-raveled it to 3 x 1/16" WIDTH strands (not length, as I said before), it was near perfect for the beading.

Breaktime (Happy Hour). I got a good feeling about this one...
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13-0 ; is that a rope size there SS?

I bought 3/16" Sisal; was way to big. By the time I un-raveled it to 3 x 1/16" WIDTH strands (not length, as I said before), it was near perfect for the beading.

Breaktime (Happy Hour). I got a good feeling about this one...
Not rope size but a football score.
I made it for a favorite niece and her husband's ranch ( 13-0 Ranch ) as a barn warming gift. Always seem to be new house warming gifts so what the he!! let's do a barn warming gift. I've made a few rope machines but she didn't get the one that made this rope.
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Old 05-20-2017, 08:25 AM   #9
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Got it SS! I didn't post clearly what the stuff is I guess (and I see a few other mistakes I made - forum software has timer on 'Edit Post'??? ).

It's 3/16" Sisal ROPE from Ace Hardware. Left is the rope, center is a single strand, right is 2 strands still together. I called it Twine, cause that's what it looks like un-wound...

Being cheap (poorly-wound chinese) rope might be to an advantage; it might absorb thinned Polyurethane better, than if it was more tightly wound.

Will find out later today here...
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If you unraveled the 3/16 Sisal and made the 3 strands into a rope it may work real well being tight and firm in rope form.

You might like the advantage of a screen spline roller to insert the cord. I believe this dual wheel is 3/32" and 5/32".
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Old 05-20-2017, 12:37 PM   #11
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'Spline' Roller is the correct tool to use SS, for PROFESSIONALS.

I'm not a pro, but I'll put my work up against one (with exception for TIME to complete the job).

So perimeter bead (spline) is done. Now ready to CAREFULLY 'drip' into the bead a thinned mix of Polyurethane.

Another concern here, is Poly on the Burlap, making it 'brittle', and subject to 'breaking', after drying... ???????
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No feedback? Thoughts? Opinions? (except for SS there)

Status Quo. Not much to learn; lots to teach...

Removing cane, cleaning groove, 2nd chair. Wow - lotta' work, if chair is quality built. Came from Hickory NC early '70's (was there last week), bought new by grandpa in Pittsburgh PA.

Took an hour+ to strip cane, clean groove with Dremel, 1 chair! Dremel attachment is a steel piece. Wanted to use a stone, but it touched both sides of groove, and that gets out of order in SHORT ORDER...
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Silence is DEAFENING!!! (except for crickets? )

2nd chair; Burlap splined into place - ready for thinned Poly here...

debating right now to put second coat into 1st chair spline, or wait until re-finishing whole chair, with SLIGHTLY thinned Poly (avoid brush strokes); a good 'bind' of Burlap in spline is critical. Anyone?
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Alright guys - SOMEone needs to sound off on this Q...

1st chair - cutting excess Burlap: OPTION 1 from OUTside (pic 1), or OPTION 2 from INside (pic 2)???

Cutting from OUTside will leave a 'lip', so to speak (that I might take down later, when hardened further, with Poly FINAL re-finish)...

...whereas, cutting from INside will save that step. BUT, there's a risk of cutting into the wood, inside the groove (not so serious), or worse, cutting into the Sisal Spline.

Anyone? SS? Helloooooooo .....................?

(and Admin / Mods; any chance I could gain 'Edit Permission' for my posts on this thread? Thanks if so, or if not)
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Pic #2 with a thin plastic backer board under the waste burlap using my wife's rotary material cutter.
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