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Old 12-13-2011, 09:23 PM   #16
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Old 12-13-2011, 10:59 PM   #17
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Old 12-14-2011, 09:49 AM   #18
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HD because I probably don't know any better. OK, the room is 6'2" x 7' like in the first picture of this thread. 6'2" running horizontally, 7' running vertically in relation to your screen, joist are every 24" running vertically in relation to your screen.

Since the plywood is 4x8, I could either cut 2 pieces and run them vertically or horizontally. Does it matter which way I lay down the plywood. I was thinking horizontally because they would run perpendicular to the joist, therefore touch more joists & provide more support. But some of recommended vertically because they think it is an easier cut.

If I run vertially the shower pan area to the other side of the wall would be one long board. Horizontally, would just cover over 4" over the shower area.
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Old 12-14-2011, 08:38 PM   #19
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Subfloor and underlayments ALWAYS must be installed with the face grain perpendicular to the joists. The direction of the face grain is the strongest orientation of the panel.

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Thanks, didn't know that. I have a question about the toilet flange. It sits about 1.25" above the current subloor. I have no plans to remove it as it looks like a difficult job. How high should the toilet flange be in relation to the top of ceramic floor, below, same or above level?

when i removed the tiles it was same level as the ceramic floor, then some contractor says it has to sit above. if it this is the case i have less room to play with.

construction adhesive 0.0625" + plywood 0.5" + mortar 0.125" + backer board 0.25" + thinset 0.125" + ceramic 0.25"= 1.31"

1.31" that would mean the toilet flange is below the height of the ceramic tiles. is this going to be a problem?

also, what is your backer board of choice?
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Ideally the bottom of the flange sits on the finished flooring. But that can vary and we often work with what we've got. I've done floors where the flange was 1/2" below the tiles. They make extenders or you can use thicker or even two wax rings.

Let me see about these figures you've posted.

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construction adhesive 0.0625" + plywood 0.5" + mortar 0.125" + backer board 0.25" + thinset 0.125" + ceramic 0.25"= 1.31"
Forget the construction adhesive, you do not use construction adhesive when installing underlayment on the subfloor.

!/2" ply is not .50. It's 1/32" under !/2" or 15/32".

The cured thin set under the backerboard will not be 1/8" thick. Maybe 1/16".

Most 1/4" backer boards are 1/4". What brand are you using?

!/8" for the tile-bond thin set is close, (probably 3/32"), I doubt the tiles are only 1/4". They are most likely closer to 5/16" or more.

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My preference is Ditra, but for a small bathroom whatever is handy is OK.

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Actually...that's all workable. Not to worry. Get your tile in and that will change the variables to actuals then you will see what else needs to be done, but you're in good shape.
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I will be using durock next gen. Where the wall that comes out to enclose the shower, from that wall to the edge of the opposite wall I want that to be the end of the shower border. But if I erect a border and want a glass door sitting on top, I only have ~1 inch width for the glass door to sit on.

I can make it wider in the direction away from the shower drain but the border would not be flush and ppl could ram their toes inadvertently. I could make it wider in the direction of the shower drain but would lose shower floor space n have an asymmetrical shower bed.

So is a 1 inch wide elevated border enough for a glass door to sit on?
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So is a 1 inch wide elevated border enough for a glass door to sit on?
No it is not.
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Nir, post pictures as you go along, I am watching how you are dealing with the toilet flange.

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