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Old 02-19-2012, 02:30 PM   #1
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What do I need too do?

I currently have the tung and groove sub floor, what do I need to do lay vinyl flooring?
What type of underlayment do I need?
What is best perimeter or whole floor bonding?
Underlayment nailed or stapled?
Tools needed?
the room is 11'6" x 11'6"

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Is it T &G hardwood flooring, 1 X 6's, plywood, OSB ?
Is the floor nice and flat and solid?
Most often it's just 1/4 subfloor rated sanded plywood for an underlayment.
I use a pneumatic narrow crown staple gun set on automatic with 1-1/4 staples. It needs to be layed so the seams do not line up with the floor joist below. Attached every 4" on the outsides and 6 to 8" in the field.
No glue under it.
DO NOT USE LAUON. Reason being it can cause color bleed through and glue to reliece.
I use staples instead of nails because the staples leave tiny holes that do not need to be filled and also there no hammer dimples.
Once the plywoods in you have to go over all the seams with floor leveler.
Once it's dry go over it with a sander. Once vacuumed your ready for flooring.
I use glue under the whole floor not just the edges. I've seen some of them buckle and wrinkle when things get slid around in the room.
Do not cheap out on the linolium! A good quality one should last 20 years.

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Is it T &G hardwood flooring, 1 X 6's, plywood, OSB ?
Is the floor nice and flat and solid?
Most often it's just 1/4 subfloor rated sanded plywood for an underlayment.
I use a pneumatic narrow crown staple gun set on automatic with 1-1/4 staples. It needs to be layed so the seams do not line up with the floor joist below. Attached every 4" on the outsides and 6 to 8" in the field.
No glue under it.
DO NOT USE LAUON. Reason being it can cause color bleed through and glue to reliece.
I use staples instead of nails because the staples leave tiny holes that do not need to be filled and also there no hammer dimples.
Once the plywoods in you have to go over all the seams with floor leveler.
Once it's dry go over it with a sander. Once vacuumed your ready for flooring.
I use glue under the whole floor not just the edges. I've seen some of them buckle and wrinkle when things get slid around in the room.
Do not cheap out on the linolium! A good quality one should last 20 years.
Sorry it is OSB
The floor is flat and solid
Standard 1-1/4 stapler?
what type of floor leveler?
will need a floor sander or will an oribtal sander do the job?
I have 3 rooms same size.
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http://www.ridgid.com/Tools/R150FSA-Stapler/index.htm
This is what I use. There not expencive and I can install a 4 X 8 sheet in under 2 min.
Non gypsom floor levler.
If your carefull when applying the floor leveler a simple obital sand will clean it up in seconds.
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Is it T &G hardwood flooring, 1 X 6's, plywood, OSB ?
Is the floor nice and flat and solid?
Most often it's just 1/4 subfloor rated sanded plywood for an underlayment.
I use a pneumatic narrow crown staple gun set on automatic with 1-1/4 staples. It needs to be layed so the seams do not line up with the floor joist below. Attached every 4" on the outsides and 6 to 8" in the field.
No glue under it.
DO NOT USE LAUON. Reason being it can cause color bleed through and glue to reliece.
I use staples instead of nails because the staples leave tiny holes that do not need to be filled and also there no hammer dimples.
Once the plywoods in you have to go over all the seams with floor leveler.
Once it's dry go over it with a sander. Once vacuumed your ready for flooring.
I use glue under the whole floor not just the edges. I've seen some of them buckle and wrinkle when things get slid around in the room.
Do not cheap out on the linolium! A good quality one should last 20 years.
Good advice, except for the parts that are wrong.,
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Then why not correct me instead of teasing us. Always room to learn something new.
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http://www.ridgid.com/Tools/R150FSA-Stapler/index.htm
This is what I use. There not expencive and I can install a 4 X 8 sheet in under 2 min.
Non gypsom floor levler.
If your carefull when applying the floor leveler a simple obital sand will clean it up in seconds.
I a 1/4" and 1/2" crown stapler.
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1/4" , 1/2 is to wide.
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1/4" , 1/2 is to wide.
miss typed or stated, I have narrow crown stapler and 1/2" crown stapler.
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And if you do not believe a 1/4 staple will hold try a scrap piece of the 1/4 plywood and try to remove it.
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And if you do not believe a 1/4 staple will hold try a scrap piece of the 1/4 plywood and try to remove it.
I use it to buld bird houses and feeders
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Not sure I would use it for outside stuff. May work but I would be afraid they would rust off or leave stains on the outside from the rust.
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Underlayment staples are coated so they won't rust. Otherwise the moisture in the adhesive would cause them to rust.
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Use 7/8" staples. 1 1/4" will blow thru the 1" combined subfloor and you will lose holding power. They should be 4" to 6" in the field and 2" to 3" on the edges. Use only cementious based patch on the seams. Then sand only the seams. You don't use luan because it can have voids in the plys which can collapse. In 40 years I have never seen luan bleed. Use only underlayment plywood.
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