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Nestor_Kelebay 02-15-2009 04:02 PM

What dissolves hot melt glue?
 
I have a carpet seaming iron that doesn't have a teflon heating pad. So, whenever I'm wanting to do any carpet seaming, I have to take it outside and burn the old glue off of it so that it won't set off the smoke detector in the suite I'm using it in. I find that about the only way I can clean off that old glue is to heat up the seaming iron and wipe it down with an old Scotchbrite pad.

I'm hoping someone in here will have seen an installer remove hot melt glue from something and would have taken enough interest to find out what chemical he was using to remove it.

rusty baker 02-15-2009 05:54 PM

We heat it and wipe it off. There is no chemical that I know of and if you put one on there it coukd affect the glue holding the next time you use it. You can freeze the tray and drop it on concrete to get some of it off the tray. but I would not recommend that with the iron.

ccarlisle 02-15-2009 05:57 PM

Nestor, send an email to Barry Costa, a guy with some 30 years experience in carpet repair and installation and teaches thre stuff.... He's in New Hampshire.

barry@costagroupinc.com

:thumbsup:

DangerMouse 02-15-2009 06:04 PM

i installed carpet for a living.... no solvent i ever heard of will do it.... just heat.

DM

Wildie 02-15-2009 06:04 PM

Would it be possible to clean it off while its still hot from doing a seam?

rusty baker 02-15-2009 07:45 PM

Yes, just wipe it on a scrap. I've been installing carpet for over 35 years.

Nestor_Kelebay 02-16-2009 11:09 AM

Thanks for the replies. I'll follow up on them.

Normally I DO wipe the iron down on a piece of scrap carpet when it's still hot. The problem is that it doesn't remove enough of the glue. The next time I use the iron, it smokes a lot as it heats up. It smokes so much that it'll set off a fire alarm for crying out loud.

I really don't know what to make of that smoke. I THINK it's old hot melt glue that's smoking. But, that begs the question: Why doesn't NEW hot melt glue smoke then? Why doesn't the seaming iron smoke to high heaven when I'm using it to seam a carpet.

I'm wondering if the plastic pile that melts onto the seaming iron WHEN I'M CLEANING IT with a piece of scrap carpet is what's causing all that smoke the next time I use it?

I'll try e-mailing the guy with the 30 years experience. I'll also try cleaning the iron with something that won't melt onto it, like steel wool.

Do other people find that their carpet seaming iron smokes when it first heats up?

mike costello 02-16-2009 11:25 AM

Try turning the temp down. I use a 6 inch iron and keep it set at 2. It collects alot of glue on it, I wipe it on scrap when its hot and the smoking is marginal

DangerMouse 02-16-2009 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike costello (Post 231168)
Try turning the temp down. I use a 6 inch iron and keep it set at 2. It collects alot of glue on it, I wipe it on scrap when its hot and the smoking is marginal

:yes: agreed, turn the iron down.
or is it too old? i ask this because my old partner had one that was old and had no on/off or temp control, just plug it in and do it.

DM

Nestor_Kelebay 02-18-2009 01:12 AM

It's a Crain seaming iron I bought about 15 years ago when I first started installing carpets in my living rooms. It has a temperature control on it that moves smoothly from 1 to 4, with 4 being the hottest. Normally I use it at the "3" setting.

I'll try turning down the temperature control to "2" to see if that helps. I'm a bit reluctant to do that because I'd rather fight with the problem I'm having than have my seams come apart. I'd rather deal with a nuisance than have to do anything over.

mike costello 02-18-2009 06:44 AM

you will make great seams at 2, it will melt the glue just fine

ccarlisle 02-18-2009 07:15 AM

Without a doubt there's a lot of experienced carpet layers around here!

Barry Costa is also a teacher of the 3-day Carpet Repair and Reinstallation course given by the IICRC...the IICRC.org is a well-known certification outfit that certifies cleaners and installers and who sponsor courses in a wide range of disciplines and Barry is very well respected. He'll give you the "what-to-do?" and - more importantly - the "why?"

He is a guru in a field of thousands of pros...and the best 'friend' one can have. I know, I've taken 3 of his classes.:yes:

rusty baker 02-18-2009 08:42 AM

No disrespect to Mr. Costa, because I don't know him. But I can tell you after over 35 years as a professional installer and many years on installation forums. A 3-day seminar will teach you very little. Most professional flooring installers and professinal flooring inspectors do not have much faith in the knowledge of carpet cleaners. As I would not attempt to teach someone about carpet cleaning, a cleaner without years of hand-on installation experience should not be certifying or teaching installers or inspectors.

DangerMouse 02-18-2009 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ccarlisle (Post 232166)
durch für gegen ohne um


learning our accusative prepositions are we? it's always fun to learn other languages....

DM

ccarlisle 02-18-2009 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rusty baker (Post 232187)
No disrespect to Mr. Costa, because I don't know him. But I can tell you after over 35 years as a professional installer and many years on installation forums. A 3-day seminar will teach you very little. Most professional flooring installers and professinal flooring inspectors do not have much faith in the knowledge of carpet cleaners. As I would not attempt to teach someone about carpet cleaning, a cleaner without years of hand-on installation experience should not be certifying or teaching installers or inspectors.


:eek::eek:

Oh my! Rusty, I meant no disrespect to you - or anyone else. The fact is that Barry Costa is a guy I know who owns a water damage restoration company in New Hampshire and who installs and repairs carpetting in the course of his job. Look up what disciplines are involved in water damage...But he also teaches the subject. I wouldn't call him a carpet cleaner by any stretch of the imagination and nor should you. Barry literally wrote the book on water damage (S500, I think it was called) so his qualifications are beyond reproach in the opinions of tens of thousands of people - not just a few hundred customers.

I am not saying he knows more than you do, I don't know you, so how could I? I know Nestor likes to know the 'whys' and IMO Barry is a guy who can give you the 'why' in a question like "why does or doesn't a resin dissolve in a solvent?".

Sure Barry can tell you what temperature the iron should be at and what's the best practical method, as you probably could too. But rather than learn 'recipes for this 'and memorizing 'recipes for that', a teacher will give you the key to unlocking the reasons why this temperature or this method and not that, so that in then end you carry around a foundation that allows you to solve any problem in that area. That's what good teachers do. They give you the key that unlocks many doors, not just a set of keys for one type of door. Get it?

So, IMO, Barry does that. I don't think you do. And I know Barry as a respectful guy. To be honest, I don't see a lot of respect from your post Rusty...and you haven't near enough posts for anyone else to know if you're the real deal or a fake. :laughing:

That post says alot about you ...at it's not particularly flattering.:no:


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