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Mummy318 04-25-2011 07:41 PM

What about Allure Ultra and door molding?
The new Allure Ultra seems very thick, and while it appears to score and snap pretty easity, what do you do when you have door molding that has a profile? Also, do we have to shortent he door molding to get it to fit under it since it's fairily thick? I have quarter round around most of the floor, but the foor molding goes right to the floor. Anyone have an answer for this?

woodman58 04-25-2011 08:22 PM

To under cut the door jam and facing use a hand saw at least 18" long. Lay a peice of allure flat on the floor. Use the layed flat on top of the allure and cut the bottom of the door. The new floor will fit right under the jam.

Bud Cline 04-25-2011 08:45 PM

Finally someone has touched on what I think is a real negative issue with this type of flooring.

ALL of the floating floors that I am aware of require you to undercut your door casings and in some cases undercut the jambs also to complete a proper installation. The elevation of the cuts to accommodate a floating floor is higher than most other types of flooring. And in some cases you must add some shoe-mold or quarter-round to your existing baseboards if you should choose not to remove them. So what happens when you want to return to a more traditional floor covering and you have already ruined your wood trim? Now what?

Well, there is no good answer. It will be too late then.

This is one of the reasons I quit installing floating floors several years ago. In essence I was going out almost daily ruining peoples homes and quite frankly it bothered me. People in general like floating floors because they are inexpensive to buy and because they are what they are (snap together floors) they are also inexpensive to install. Hey, the best of both worlds, right?

In my thinking people are being suckered into buying the latest concept in flooring because its initial cost can be relatively low and installation is quick and painless and they are not being told about the far-reaching damage a floating floor really can cause to their home.:)

My suggestion is to "THINK TWICE" before buying any laminate or floating floor.:)

woodman58 04-26-2011 02:57 PM

Bud, You have to under cut jams with hardwood and there are no lasting reprocusion. In St. Louis we under cut doors for everything but carpet including ceramic and vinyl. This is why they make jam saws. It gives you a cleaner finish. If the customer changes back to a different floor later they can remove the shoe or 1/4 rd. and fill the holes. No problem.

Bud Cline 04-26-2011 04:22 PM


Bud, You have to under cut jams with hardwood and there are no lasting reprocusion.
Understood. But, things like real hardwood and ceramic or stone tile are considered permanent installations with a much greater anticipated life span than throw-away laminate floors and the like. Most of the lams (and the like) also have a cush to them and move up and down to a small degree revealing a coming and going gap at a door when you pass through. Those floors have also been known to skew from pivot-points and expose gaps under the supplemental trim additions.

No sir...just don't like the concept.:)

But hey! That's just me, laminate flooring has been a marketers windfall in years of late.

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