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Old 03-21-2008, 05:01 PM   #16
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I have a small cottage with a kitchen that runs to carpeted living room with no walls. Would the Allure trafficmaster be able to be installed in the kitchen portion of the room, or do you think the floating floor would start to move away from the 2 walls and start traveling out on to the carpeted area since there is no wall on 2 sides to hold it in? Anyone use this product in this type of area? And second, I am in Hawaii, has high humidity be a problem for anyone? thx
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Old 03-21-2008, 06:12 PM   #17
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I would be happy to come take a look at that for you.
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Old 09-03-2008, 03:30 PM   #18
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I'm sure glad I found this forum before I bought this product! I went to the HD site and all their posted ratings on the product are 5 out of 5. I was ready to order 175 sq ft but I decided to "Google" it and found this forum!

Is this the same product as This Old House installed in the Row House project kitchen which just aired last evening?

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Trafficemaster Allure Vinyl Flooring--BAD Experience!!
Just wanted to share our horrible experience with this product to spare others the heartache and frustration we have had this past year. First the seams lifted, which eventually led to Halstead (the manufacturer) refunding our total amount spent on this product. Then upon removal of the product, we found solid MOLD growing under the flooring!! We had installed it in a "dry" walkout basement which is actually a foot above grade/ground level. We had carpet and padding down for 7 years with no moisture/mold issues. Now our cement subfloor has been compromised, and even after cleaning with bleach and water 3 times, we are still told by professionals to seal it with a mold inhibitor paint to prevent any mold spores that are still in the cement from growing in the future. In my opinion, based on our experience, this product has a flaw in it's application for use. It seems to set up conditions for moisture to be trapped and breed mold. You don't have this issue with carpet as it breathes, and you don't have this issue with traditional vinyl because it is glued completely to the subfloor or sealed around the perimeter. This product doesn't require any floor prep in it's install and it doesn't seal out air with any type of gluing down of the floor. In my opinion this allows air and moisture to be trapped under the vinyl, and presto! you have a science project growing in your home! I feel we were lucky to have the seam lifting issue which led to us removing the flooring from our home after only 8 months....what if we had left it for 5 years...can you imagine the mold levels that might have existed then?! Contact me if you want pictures!!!
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Old 12-14-2008, 08:14 PM   #19
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I'm sure glad I found this forum before I bought this product! I went to the HD site and all their posted ratings on the product are 5 out of 5. I was ready to order 175 sq ft but I decided to "Google" it and found this forum!

Is this the same product as This Old House installed in the Row House project kitchen which just aired last evening?
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We purchased this Trafficmaster Allure flooring in hickory for the master bedroom we recently built in our basement. Prior to installing the flooring (in temperatures between 75 and 80 degrees F), we applied a vapor barrier epoxy concrete sealant. EVERY board is peeling up! We have tried using a linoleum roller over the course of several days, and we have seen no improvements. There are no problem SPOTS; the entire floor is a problem! We are planning to call Trafficmaster for a full refund on the 7 boxes we purchased.
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Old 12-26-2008, 08:15 AM   #20
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We bought the hickory trafficmaster a year ago and have had nothing but problems. Not only do pieces on our walk out basement floor "pop" up on the edges but you can not wear any shoes on it at all. THe kids can not play with their toys on it. Everything that touches it leaves a terrible skid mark that according to trafficmaster can not be fixed. They said that the scuffs will show up in that late afternoon due to the sun shining on them and bringing them out. But you can see them all the time! It was such a waste of money and our floor looks worn and quite honestly just terrible. The scuffs showed up from the moment we put it down. It looked nice for about an hour! If anyone has a suggestion on how to get rid of the scuffs, please let me know. I am pretty sure the laminate top almost "melts" when another rubber comes in contact with it so fixing it is near impossible. My suggestion is use something else. I just found this thread and I wish I found it last year. Especially since I saw the post below about mold! We will probably rip it out sometime next year and put down something else. I am so disappointed in the money we just wasted.
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Old 02-22-2009, 01:27 PM   #21
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Has anyone installed Traffic Master Allure planks over 13" x13" ceramic or porcelein tile flooring? I'd like to install it in my kitchen, breakfast room, foyer and hall but have tile with approx. 1/4" grout lines. I wondered if the grout lines would eventrually show through the Allure "wood" flooring.
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Old 04-07-2009, 09:32 AM   #22
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Anyone have experience with trafficmaster allure? I am going to use it in my basement on tile that is on cement. I was wondering if it would be any added plus to use some underlayment below it. I know it doesn't need it, but would it add any positive?
I put this stuff, and I use stuff loosely, on my family room floor. The only thing good about it is that I now realize how my previous carpet got dirty so quick. We spent our stimulus check to get this for the room after glowing reports from our Home Depot salesperson. Well it was not down more than 2 weeks before I noticed it was starting to scratch everywhere. ANYTHING can scratch it. I have 4 dogs, short clipped nails, so it is not their fault. The least little thing that slides across it makes a mark. Regret the day I bought it, wish I had gone back to carpet, as I hate this and I am stuck with it now til it wears out, which won't take long at the rate it is wearing. It has been down down since the week before Thanksgiving, that is less than 6 months. Also it does raise at the seams.
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Old 04-20-2009, 08:29 PM   #23
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I want to install a vinyl floating floor in a florida room. Right now it has indoor/outdoor carpeting glued on to the cement floor. Should I take out the carpet before I install the vinyl floating floor? Or should I leave the carpet underneath and then install the floating vinyl floor on top of it? Please answer me. Thank you.
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Old 04-20-2009, 08:54 PM   #24
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No you must take up any carpet and padding to install the allure. But make sure you really want to use this product as I have not had a very good experience with it, so I am not the one to answer your question. I have heard that it sometimes grows mold under the flooring if installed over concrete. Mine was on a wood layment, so Icannot tell how it will hold up over your concrete. But you need to remove the carpet for sure.
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Old 04-20-2009, 08:58 PM   #25
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I want to install a vinyl floating floor in a florida room. Right now it has indoor/outdoor carpeting glued on to the cement floor. Should I take out the carpet before I install the vinyl floating floor? Or should I leave the carpet underneath and then install the floating vinyl floor on top of it? Please answer me. Thank you.

Depends on how thin and beat down the old carpet is. If your using Allure you don't want a lot of give under the seams. Presume the floor is dry..?
Almost every complaint I seen about Allure (aside from the scuffing some have) involved not following the directions for rolling it or putting it down over a damp surface. Have fun...

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Old 02-17-2011, 07:39 AM   #26
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I've decided to install the Allure product in my finished basement. Currently there is is 12x12 vinyl tiles down and they're in pretty good shape. I've been reading about these planks popping out, possibly because of moisture issues. However, most of the complaints seemed to be happening when it's put directly over concrete without a barrier of some type between it and the floor. Has anyone had issues with this problem when it's been installed over vinyl or some other underlayment? My basement is bone dry in the winter and i run a dehumidifier in the summer. I probably don't have to, but I have a lot of electronics down there and rather be on the safe side. Thanks for all the help.
I had Allure put in my condo in Nashville. The job was botched by the installers. Gaps in most of the seams and edges popping up all over. They tore up the old, put down a sealer and plastic, and then a new floor. No roller was used. Seams still pop in some places, and this installer tried to attach them with liquid nail. It didn't work. This is a problem with an installer who is incompetent more than with the the flooring. Still, I don't think I'd used the product again.
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Just thought I would post my experience and let you all take it for what it's worth. I installed this product in my previous home to update the floors to sell it. I purchased the wood tone in the dark Cherry finish. I purchased and installed it in an area that was 24x36 and NOT in a basement...over plywood flooring in a heated/warm area. I was told how WONDERFUL this product was for heavy traffic, dogs (I own 4 big dogs)...and for kids wear/tear. The home depot people swore by this product and encouraged us to use it for the area. We did. We installed it, and I have to say it was quick and really easy to do. However, when we moved our furniture back into the room (and we didnt slide things over the floor, just re-positioned them once we got them in place)....we noticed scratches immediately. I was NOT happy. Within a few weeks, the entire surface had wear marks, scratches, scuffs, etc from the dogs and my infant/toddlers rolling walker. I couldnt even move his high chair across the dining room floor (which has rubber wheels) without it leaving scuff/drag marks. I immediately complained to Home Depot...took photos of the damage and the lady that sold us the product was shocked. She thought that maybe it was a factory defect in the batch we got, but when she picked up the plank in her store and ran her finger nail across it....it did the same EXACT thing on her floor sample. She couldnt believe it did that, actually showed it to all the personnel in flooring and management. They contacted the manufacturer...and sent them a sample of the damage. The manufacturer paid to replace all of our floor (we had to buy ALLURE again as with the warranty you get the product replaced)...so we decided to go with the light oak color instead of the dark cherry this time. We had to tear out the entire floor and re-install it all ourselves again...which thankfully it is easy to do....however, the company does not reimburse you for supplies...they just cover the cost of the new flooring. We landed up doing double the work, running around...and let me just say we were not happy about it. The light oak floor worked out much better....it was still scuffing/scratching...but with the light color it did not show as bad as the dark cherry! Luckily we sold the house right after that so I didnt have to worry about it...but I would think twice about using it in HIGH traffic areas with dogs and kids....it was not as durable as the home depot employees said it would be....but it is VERY EASY to install.

*As for the seams separating....I HAD THE SAME PROBLEM...and we did use a heavy roller to lay it down. I had lots of seams separate and was told to use a wood tone filler that matched the wood color of the floor so that it blends in. I felt like every week I was down on the floor filling in seams....so, I was not impressed, nor happy with this product. Home depot flooring people RAVE over it...and to this day if I am in the flooring isle will suggest it for projects....that it, until I tell them of my "wonderful" experience with it!! lol

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I put this stuff, and I use stuff loosely, on my family room floor. The only thing good about it is that I now realize how my previous carpet got dirty so quick. We spent our stimulus check to get this for the room after glowing reports from our Home Depot salesperson. Well it was not down more than 2 weeks before I noticed it was starting to scratch everywhere. ANYTHING can scratch it. I have 4 dogs, short clipped nails, so it is not their fault. The least little thing that slides across it makes a mark. Regret the day I bought it, wish I had gone back to carpet, as I hate this and I am stuck with it now til it wears out, which won't take long at the rate it is wearing. It has been down down since the week before Thanksgiving, that is less than 6 months. Also it does raise at the seams.
You should have immediately complained to Home Depot...contacted the manufacturer with photos...and they would have paid for all new products. The same thing happened to me a few years ago when I was updating our house to sell it. It scratched immediately...if you read my story listed here you will see. I contacted Home Depot and the manufacturer (it is a warrantied floor)...they replaced the entire floor at no cost...but I had to do all the labor all over again. I chose a light colored wood pattern the second time around and it still scratched, but did not show as bad as the darker colors.
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Old 03-04-2011, 08:47 PM   #29
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look people, let's use a little common sense. the Allure flooring is made of Vinyl and a Gummy Glue. those things are not susceptible to moisture. the most obvious reason everyone is having trouble on concrete basements is because the CONCRETE IS COLD. and that makes the Gummy-Glue more brittle and less tacky. this isn't rocket science. please don't make the product more expensive by returning it for silly reasons. i don't think any kind of Gummy-Glue will work on a cold concrete floor, especially if it is a little uneven. and i would never put a waterproof material loosely over a surface that may get damp from condensation or penetration. from memory as i read this thread: next, of course carpet will not have the same moisture problem on concrete floors, because it breathes. next, of course you may have mold problems under vinyl on a concrete floor because moisture will condense on the vinyl from the cold concrete. mold will especially grow if things were not too clean - after all, it does need food. i would not put anything on a concrete floor that had any moisture content, unless it was something that can breathe, or something that can seal. and i would not use Gummy-Glue on anything that gets cold and/or is slightly uneven. the only thing Allure will be good for is: 1. a dry floor (prevent moisture problems below the Vinyl). 2. a very level/smooth/flat floor (no stress on the Gummy-Glue). 3. a warm floor (so Gummy-Glue is not brittle, and condensation will not form between the Vinyl and sub-flooring).
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also, in regard to scratching, ANY plastic/wood will scratch. if you don't want scratches, then use something hard - like stone, or ceramic, or a very hard tile. jeez. everybody pays extra for products when they are returned for silly reasons.
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