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Old 10-16-2010, 11:46 PM   #1
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Would like to see here if anyone bought or installed the ULTRA traffic master Allure planks now sold at home depot.

I am considering this for a basement. I have laminate flooring dont which was two separate colors with carpet. I am not planning to remove the carpet and use the floating old laminate for two other rooms.

I still have the vapor barrier/foam underlay from the laminate flooring down. I intend to keep that there. I know that concrete in a basement will get (wet) from ground water absorption. I know mold grows from heat and moisture.

I intend to keep the foam barrier to keep any mold, vapors, out of the basement. As a note. The previous laminate was placed over a heated floor in some areas. I discovered that an area in which I know i spilled (either gun cleaner or another liquid) there was mold. This mold was on the laminate between the foam and the laminate. I presume the heated floor provided the heat and the laminate provided the food for the mold growth. This is why I would prefer a vinyl product like this Ultra Alure, instead of the reg laminate.

I know this is the new Allure product so i would like to see comment or reviews on it. Not on the Allure glue together vinyl, or sheets of vinyl only comment on the allure ultra planks please! Thanks ...

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Old 10-18-2010, 01:10 PM   #2
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Hey Wiley0714!

I am a flooring specialist from the Atlanta area and just wanted to say a quick hello and answer your question regarding comments or reviews on TrafficMaster Allure Vinyl.



TrafficMaster Allure planks get the attention they do because of the ease of use. The only time I've personally ever see a customer frustrated with the product is when[/COLOR] they did not let the product acclimate and some the edges did peel up. Even with the substrate being vinyl it needs a day or so for the planks to get adjusted to the temperature, etc. After I explained that to her, she had no further issues with theinstallation. Also, I just spoke with my Flooring Installer Specialist and we both agree that leaving the foam underlayment would not work in this situation due to the Allure planks not being able to hold onto the subfloor itself. I recommend either a sheet of polyurethane or similar vapor barrier thin plastic (ie 6 mil) or you can paint the floor with a waterproofing membrane. The foam underlayment is just too thick for the vinyl planks to hold properly. We sell both of the underlayment’s and you can find those products at any nearest home center. That way you’ll have no slippage or possible failure from your new floor.

Overall,it’s a great product and I'm gladyou’re still doing research before diving into the project!

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Old 10-19-2010, 11:10 AM   #3
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With all respect joe:

1. The planks I am talking about, stick to each other. There is not any glue or stripes to stick to the floor.

2. This is a new product, and I assume you are NOT familiar with it. The edges glue to each other for the waterproof/resistant effect.

3. As an employee of Home Depot, I do not expect your opinion, which is reflective of making a stores product look more appealing, to be objective.

4. Home depot does provide reviews, and those post can be controlled in favor of Home depot. And many of there reviews are matched to various similar products, but not product specific.

I am asking for anyone who bought, the new vinyl planks, which have an edge , in which each plank overlaps to create a seal in between the planks.

Not the planks in which , you peel off adhesive to stick the plank to the floor.
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Old 10-19-2010, 12:53 PM   #4
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What Joe is saying is correct, the Allure flooring has the edges that stick together to create a "floating floor" which is why a foam underlayment will not work. It will allow to much movment within the strips causing the seams to separate. Do like I did and get an approx. 3'x3' piece of 6mil plastic and duct tape it to your floor for a week and see if any moisture collects in that time. If after a week there is no moisture present you are good to lay your flooring right over the slab if not I would recommend painting the slab with a concrete sealer before laying the floor.
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Old 10-22-2010, 01:32 PM   #5
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I think you're off base with your comments wiley0714.

I just installed this product in my house when I decided I didn't want to mess with the hardwoods that were in bad shape and had been covered over with carpet by the last owners.

I'm not an expert installer by any means, just a female that is up tackling any project on my house. If you leave material that has that much give you are going to have issues, plain and simple.

When you're done you'll love the floor. I went with this also because I have a 8 year old dog that frequently has accidents.
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Old 10-25-2010, 09:07 PM   #6
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AboveaverageJoe. Read the post. It is Allure Ultra. Not the sticky strip.
It uses the Uniclick system like laminate flooring. Home Depot must have the worst product training for sales because no one in the store has any clue that this product is available. I have had to show store employee everytime where it is on the website after taking over their keyboard because they are computer illiterate. Then I ask them to find out when the store will be stocking the Ultra product and have no idea where to call.
So I take the phone out of his hand, sit in his chair and call corporate.
They tell me it is set to "roll out" to stores. But no idea when.
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Old 10-25-2010, 11:53 PM   #7
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Well they found a gunie pig to sell it to The structural composition of the plank (Its not a Plank) is excellent. I used the old Grip Strip before loved it but any piece of furniture left shinny lines in the floor. That Home Depot could not explain. Finally made up some Min wax dark cheery stain and wood putty and rubbed it in. It work some what. NOTHING else did after 4 months sold the home.

Wife is in a power wheel chair and 2 ****zus that don't make it out side sometimes. The Commercial coating is excellent. That is why I choose ULTRA not the Grip Strip. Installation instructions and warranty are nonexistent!!! Not in the box, printed on the box, or any Home Depot employee has a clue about the product. Spent over 1 hour on the chat line at Home Depot with 4 different persons. The last one said I found you Traffic Master web site. GUESS What Allure site has is instructions for the Grip Strip NOTHING any ware about the ULTRA I have more knowledge than they do after my research Your right about them being brain dead

I paid a professional installer $500.00 for the install and he started over 5 times before the click grip started to go in like PERGO locking system (They copied the system like Pergo) Well 24 hours later most of the floor came apart

I am going to Home Depot on Wed this week for a appointment with the store manage I am looking for a reinstall by THERE PROFESSIONAL INSTALLERS and to replace and damaged pieces. I have pictures if I can find my UBS cord

Oh by the way The plank is not a Plank On one side its is a 3 1/2x 48 inch strip and the other side are 3 1/2 x 24 strips Youe dont see that on the web. A plank is a solid board that is greater than 4 1/2 in with. Look closely at the display in the store and you will see gray lines between the Alure Ultra This will not make the floor water proof.

Its also is very hard to work with. A utility knife blade last about 5 cuts. Then you need a new blade. The hard surface they say it is , is a true 20mm thick and verry hard so I think the surface will hold up alright if you can get to stay together
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Would like to see here if anyone bought or installed the ULTRA traffic master Allure planks now sold at home depot.

I am considering this for a basement. I have laminate flooring dont which was two separate colors with carpet. I am not planning to remove the carpet and use the floating old laminate for two other rooms.

I still have the vapor barrier/foam underlay from the laminate flooring down. I intend to keep that there. I know that concrete in a basement will get (wet) from ground water absorption. I know mold grows from heat and moisture.

I intend to keep the foam barrier to keep any mold, vapors, out of the basement. As a note. The previous laminate was placed over a heated floor in some areas. I discovered that an area in which I know i spilled (either gun cleaner or another liquid) there was mold. This mold was on the laminate between the foam and the laminate. I presume the heated floor provided the heat and the laminate provided the food for the mold growth. This is why I would prefer a vinyl product like this Ultra Alure, instead of the reg laminate.

I know this is the new Allure product so i would like to see comment or reviews on it. Not on the Allure glue together vinyl, or sheets of vinyl only comment on the allure ultra planks please! Thanks ...

See my post ooak2804
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Old 10-31-2010, 02:55 PM   #9
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I nearly ordered this flooring a few hours ago at our local Home Depot. It seems perfect for us since we have an old wood floor in our living/dining room and kitchen that really needs to be replaced. I need something more durable than wood and something that's waterproof as well. They did have a couple of choices in stock but not enough to do the job. Maybe it's a good thing that I came home and read the reviews before I ordered it in the store. I'm hesitant now due to the review that said the floor came apart in 24 hours. I also have large dogs that can be tough on any floor. I certainly don't want it coming apart. I'd be really interested in hearing if anyone else has installed this flooring and how it's holding up. I'm just inquiring about the planks using the CLIC installation method, not the planks that stick together with attached adhesive strips.
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Old 12-29-2010, 08:18 PM   #10
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Considering this flooring in our family room. Will be put over a concrete floor. But we also have two steps that go up to main part of house. Can this product be used vertically on the front of the steps? Are there strips that match floor whiuch would cover the edge of the steps? Also any other tips about installing would be appreciated.
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How frustrating to have so few people actually read your question!? You are asking about the ULTRA product. NOT the Allure with sticky sides.

I do not have the ULTRA product. I have used the Allure and based on my experience with that, I would be very hesitant to use anything from the same line (easily marked by moving even light furniture around).
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To the individual with having the flooring unlatched in 24 hours: I bet that your installer had some experience with laminate flooring but none with the Allure Ultra. Ultra needs to be installed following the procedure EXACTLY!. Otherwise, because the material is much softer than laminate, he was obviously shearing off the latching feature(s). Or he did not latched the pieces in proper sequence. Or not at all. Why don't you take pictures (details) of the failed seam(s) and show them to us here? This Chatroom allows you to post images here.

Marking the flooring - just read the procedure - it is there how to limit such.

Also, this is a "floating" system - you cannot leave zero space around the sloor edges, nor install molding too tight against the flooring surface.

I recommend to read procedures, even if you use "professional" installer. In the first (laminate) flooring job in our previous home I hired installer and then, just because I knew how it should be done, fired him within one hour. And did 1800 feet all by miself with no problems. And then, two years ago, did it in our new house, this time 2000 feet. And I was then 66 years old.
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Here is link to see the installation video for Allure Ultra (click pieces together). Try to see the whole thing before starting to complain.

http://ext.homedepot.com/video/?bcpi...d=648249881001
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To the individual with having the flooring unlatched in 24 hours: I bet that your installer had some experience with laminate flooring but none with the Allure Ultra. Ultra needs to be installed following the procedure EXACTLY!. Otherwise, because the material is much softer than laminate, he was obviously shearing off the latching feature(s). Or he did not latched the pieces in proper sequence. Or not at all. Why don't you take pictures (details) of the failed seam(s) and show them to us here? This Chatroom allows you to post images here.

Marking the flooring - just read the procedure - it is there how to limit such.

Also, this is a "floating" system - you cannot leave zero space around the sloor edges, nor install molding too tight against the flooring surface.

I recommend to read procedures, even if you use "professional" installer. In the first (laminate) flooring job in our previous home I hired installer and then, just because I knew how it should be done, fired him within one hour. And did 1800 feet all by miself with no problems. And then, two years ago, did it in our new house, this time 2000 feet. And I was then 66 years old.

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To the individual with having the flooring unlatched in 24 hours: I bet that your installer had some experience with laminate flooring but none with the Allure Ultra. Ultra needs to be installed following the procedure EXACTLY!. Otherwise, because the material is much softer than laminate, he was obviously shearing off the latching feature(s). Or he did not latched the pieces in proper sequence. Or not at all. Why don't you take pictures (details) of the failed seam(s) and show them to us here? This Chatroom allows you to post images here.

Marking the flooring - just read the procedure - it is there how to limit such.

Also, this is a "floating" system - you cannot leave zero space around the sloor edges, nor install molding too tight against the flooring surface.

I recommend to read procedures, even if you use "professional" installer. In the first (laminate) flooring job in our previous home I hired installer and then, just because I knew how it should be done, fired him within one hour. And did 1800 feet all by miself with no problems. And then, two years ago, did it in our new house, this time 2000 feet. And I was then 66 years old.

kozel I am also in my 60 and have built 5 homes form top to bottom so I an not a novice in doing a floor. I was the first person at Home Depot to purchase this NEW product in Oct of 2010 The store employee had no clue what I was talking about till I made him bring up the Home Depot,Com web site. I had to order it from the main computer in the front of the store as they could not receive it there in the Wixom location When it arrived There was no instruction printed on the box (I have installed over 8 Allure Grip Stick Floors for many of friends and family There instruction were printed on the back of the box) Upon opening the boxes (24 of them) I was surprised to fine NO INSTRUCTIONS ANY WHERE) First I know how to accumulate to the proper temperature , I waited for about 4 days before starting even opening the boxes. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to install this floor it just I had surgery and that why I hired a good friend who is a full 34 years in the business installer. We went to the manufacture web site (HALLSTEAD INTERNATIONAL) They did not even have a thing on the ULTRA product WHAT!!!!!!! Google the words Allure Ultra and over 40 sites kept bringing you back to instructions on how to install the ALLURE GRIP STRIP KIND. Went to 4 Home Depots looking for some help. However I found out they they new absolutely NOTHING about what I had just purchased. I was provided with out even a copy of any warranty or my Consumer rights if I had a problem. The 3 pictures on the box that say step one, two, three is wrong! After 4 phone calls to Home Depot <com (Three hours on the phone) I finial y found some one who got me a website at Hallstead Int . She said it was there instruction site for lost instructions GREAT!!!!! You guessed it ALLURE GRIP STRIP instructions. After the 3 time installing about 25% of the floor I had enough. Tore up the sheet vinyl, laid my $600.00 lazier with a 90 degree reading and the floor is + or - 1/64 So off to home Depot and lo and behold they have a DISPLAY of 2 colors GUESS WHAT I went over to the display and could pick up the so called interlocking piece. Theirs would lock properly either. Show the store manager and he said this interesting. but we don't have a person to come out and see the problem! WHAT!!!!!

So her I am with a NON waterproof floor (remember I remover the sheet vinyl) that has gray limes though out the floor and can lift some pieces with my fingernail

My neighbor loved the floor when it was going in he went out that after noon and spent $3,400.00 for the in stock color that they got in that day. He seen the problem I was having and thought I might got a first run error in production However after the next week when he tried to install it. It also came apart after getting about 4 rows out from the start ( he is a builder) He took it all back

As of today with a help of a Flooring person in the North ville store I was able to talk to a real person at Hallstead and she said that they were having some problems but very few for a new product and to send me some pictures So we will see!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! After all that, the floor Black walnut if beautiful its just the gray seams and the water from the dog dish going to the sub floor if getting to me Will keep you posted.

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