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Old 06-07-2013, 07:29 AM   #1
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So I hired someone to do the tile at my apartment and now it seems it moved and lifted. Its not all areas, but the are along the longest wall definitely lifted and moved forward. below is a picture, and maybe it won't be as clear, but what do you all suggest I do? The tile was put over 5/8ths plywood and mastic adhesive. Im a little frustrated and I think Im just going to take off the counter top and lay down some concrete boards and set it over that. Any other solutions?

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No picture came up.
Layed directly over plywood and with mastic and you wonder why it failed, hmm.

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well, that's what they said to use. I suggested the concrete boards with thinset and they disagreed and said it was not necessary. I realize I should have just gone with my instinct. Hell even the guys from Home Depot said it would be fine. Guess Im just gonna take it off and do it my way.
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well, that's what they said to use.
Who is they?

Find better sources for information.
In general, the person selling you X is the LAST one to ask.
Ask them Q's... but have objective info first.

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...even the guys from Home Depot said it would be fine.
It's against store policy to give NO as the answer to any question.
Seriously... they'll go through hoops to avoid it let alone to admit that they don't know something.

Try it sometime.
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Never, ever take advice from the guys at a Big Box. Most of them were selling shoes or cars the week before.
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Its almost level atleast....
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How thick is this plywood and what grade is it?
It should have been 3/4" A/C.
I'm also not seeing any over hang built in to attach the edging to.
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The Plywood is 3/4ths, and its Birch. There is no overhang as the idea was to add a molding that would be flush to the top of the tile and fill any gap with colored caulking. The tile doesn't move, only a couple pieces have a 1/32 movement downward if you press hard enough and it seems to be very close to level. Im just uncomfortable with the space between tile and supporting ply. One piece had move considerably and the installer came again and reinstalled that piece. Im just concerned as to how long the countertop tile will remain fixed.
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You will need to pull the tile, using 1/4" hardibacker and then thinset would be best.

I have done this before though. Not going to recommend it as a acceptable way for a paying customer, for myself ... yeah.
I was renting a cheap house that was pretty rough but was in a nice location.
I had to repair some rot in the counter top, previous tenants had tore up other parts.
I had bare plywood and laminate. I bought the cheapest 4"x4" tile from home depot and used regular gray thinset, it lasted about 2 weeks before started popping loose.
During this time we were doing a bathroom remodel at work, had some glass tile going in the shower. The tile manufacturer of the custom ordered tile recommended a specific thinset. It was white and available at a local tile store. It was very expensive and if you got it on your hands, took two weeks to wear off.
We had some left over, I used it on my counter top the second time. That was 6 years ago and is still holding up fine.
For me was free, I think it cost $40-$45 a bag, would be cheaper to buy hardibacker and do it right.
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Advice from Home Depot? Plywood? Mastic?

Sorry to hear...hope you get it resolved.

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