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09-21-2010, 09:33 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2010
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Tile over linoleum
My wife and I would like to tile our kitchen but I'm looking for some advice. We would like it if we could just prep the linoleum and tile over it but we don't want a large transition from the hall floor into the kitchen.
Currently there is a 1/4" rise from the kitchen onto the hardwood in the hall. The kitchen is on the second floor of the house. If I as to lay down the concrete sheeting then tile I'd be looking at anywhere between 1.25-1.5" step between the hardwood and tile... Which we don't want.
I've heard you can buy a mesh that gets attached right onto of the linoleum which you then mud. This is suppose to give enough rigidity to supportthe tile without the excessive height. Anyone know if this is true? Or is my best bet to tear up the linoleum and build right up from the sub-floor?
Thanks for your thoughts.
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09-21-2010, 11:11 AM
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Member
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 44
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Tile over linoleum
Is the "Lino" floor stuck? I personally would rather my tile be bonded to concrete. Your bond is only as good as what you lay over.
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09-21-2010, 11:35 AM
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Tileguy
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 9,104
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Tile over linoleum
Remove the vinyl and the related 1/4" underlayment under it. Never install tile over vinyl flooring.
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09-21-2010, 09:32 PM
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Newbie
Join Date: Sep 2010
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Tile over linoleum
I would definately recomend tearing up the linoleum then I would put a 1/4 inch durarock or some kinda of cement board and use a mud to adhere it to the subfloor and nail it down also with roofing nails the mud we use is a thinset not sure on the brand but Im sure your local tile shop will have the right product for you and when you get your mud lay it down on the subfloor with a 1/4 in notched troll that is what we use on our jobs
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09-22-2010, 10:19 PM
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Tileguy
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 9,104
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Tile over linoleum
Use cement board...doesn't matter which one, they all work fine.
All cement board makers insist their product is to be installed in a fresh bed of thinset tile mortar (some want modified thinset some want unmodified thinset) then fastened to the substrate with a particular fastening schedule. You can use nails or screws, some allow staples but most don't. All cement boards come with instructions but you may have to look them up online.
READ THE INSTRUCTIONS!
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09-22-2010, 10:22 PM
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Tileguy
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 9,104
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Tile over linoleum
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MITCH24: "I would definately recomend tearing up the linoleum then I would put a 1/4 inch durarock or some kinda of cement board and use a mud to adhere it to the subfloor and nail it down also with roofing nails the mud we use is a thinset not sure on the brand but Im sure your local tile shop will have the right product for you and when you get your mud lay it down on the subfloor with a 1/4 in notched troll that is what we use on our jobs"
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Mitch, if you are serious about installing tile get yourself a Handbook from The Tile Council of North America and study up. Sounds like you are off to a good start so don't fall victim to unsound installation practices. Tile installation is a good trade to be in but to survive a guy needs to know there are rules, then a guy needs to follow those rules.: Good Luck.
http://www.tileusa.com/publication_main.htm
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09-23-2010, 02:44 AM
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Member
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 131
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Tile over linoleum
Usually there is underlayment under Lino , SOOO Tear it out and put the backer board down and do it right , It's very likely The underlayment is partical board , You CAN NOT lay tile over particle board , ERR well you can but It doesn't work very well , So Why don't you just tear it out and not worry ,
tacomahardwoodfloors.com
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02-24-2013, 02:56 PM
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Newbie
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 4
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Tile over linoleum
Can you just nail down cement board over linolium and them tile?
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02-24-2013, 05:20 PM
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Member
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Hartfield VA
Posts: 18,206
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Tile over linoleum
No, no, no!!!!!!!!!!!
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02-24-2013, 05:23 PM
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Floor Installer
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Buckner, Mo.
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Tile over linoleum
Quote:
Originally Posted by joecaption
No, no, no!!!!!!!!!!!
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And NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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02-24-2013, 07:18 PM
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Tileguy
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Troy, Michigan
Posts: 3,265
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Kemp,
Of course not! People who insist on doing that is one reason my hair is gone.  Not because it's easier, but because they'd like all the floor to be the same and still have different types of floors. You want the floors the same level? Install the same thing on all the floors like in other parts of the world.
Tell us more, what do you wanna do?
Jaz
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02-25-2013, 11:00 AM
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Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Lagrangeville NY
Posts: 833
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Tile over linoleum
Quote:
Originally Posted by sam floor
And NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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Also No!.... even though this is back from 2010..... wonder if the op did it anyway. Lol
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02-25-2013, 01:00 PM
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Floor Installer
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Buckner, Mo.
Posts: 161
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Tile over linoleum
Quote:
Originally Posted by JetSwet
Also No!.... even though this is back from 2010..... wonder if the op did it anyway. Lol
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If he did, he has probably replaced it by now.
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