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Old 01-06-2008, 03:30 PM   #16
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Ok, if I decided to remove myself here would be my plan:

1) Turn off heater
2) Tape plastic over heater vents
3) Seal off rest of house
4) Soak tiles in a soap/water mixture
5) Wear some tyvek, gloves, respirator, and goggles (easy since I sell safety equipment)
6) Use putty knife to remove tiles
7) Put into plastic bags and dispose of correctly.

Look good?

Next questions...what do I do with the glue or mastic that will likely be on the floor when I am done? Am I missing any steps?

Funny thing is that when I worked for a contractor I remember removing a few houses worth of these tiles with nothing more than a scraper and sledge hammer.

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Old 01-06-2008, 03:41 PM   #17
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Figuretively of course.......Encapsulate it with Ardex Feather Finshsh, just a skim coat

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Old 01-06-2008, 04:13 PM   #18
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Look good?
A little overkill in my book but no harm in being protected.
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Next questions...what do I do with the glue or mastic that will likely be on the floor when I am done? Am I missing any steps?
As long as there is no loose mastic, and you cleaned, scraped well, you can just use thinset and set your tiles.

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Funny thing is that when I worked for a contractor I remember removing a few houses worth of these tiles with nothing more than a scraper and sledge hammer.
Yea, I have done that too.
Oh, and you can still buy a similar tile. Its called VCT (Vinyl Composite Tile).
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Don't worry about the glue residue. Just wipe it down real well so that its nice and clean and tile away.
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Old 01-07-2008, 10:27 PM   #20
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I am REALLY torn here...besides not being able to find a plumber to reroute a gas pipe I need answers.

1) If I sell the house in 5-7 years (game plan to get a bigger home) will I have trouble when it's obvious I removed the tiles? I cannot get under the heater nor behind it to remove the tiles.
2) Can I seal the tiles then tile over top? The only spots that aren't 100% are on the edges behind the washer where I will have trim.
3) Any thing else?
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I am REALLY torn here...besides not being able to find a plumber to reroute a gas pipe I need answers.

1) If I sell the house in 5-7 years (game plan to get a bigger home) will I have trouble when it's obvious I removed the tiles? I cannot get under the heater nor behind it to remove the tiles.
2) Can I seal the tiles then tile over top? The only spots that aren't 100% are on the edges behind the washer where I will have trim.
3) Any thing else?
Lets step back a little - Can you provide a wide shot picture of the area to include the area with the gas pipe, heater, etc?

No problems selling the house per se. If it looks like a hack job then it could detract. Is this A new house for you? I guess I'm thinking just leave well enough alone. Clean and wax what you have and get goin fishin!

Others have posted ^^^ up there ^^^ how you would go about tiling over. Its more than "sealing them", thats why others, like me, say remove them. PM me, I have some thoughts I do not want to share on the board at the moment.
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Old 01-08-2008, 12:30 PM   #22
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Brik...I can't PM until I hit 20 posts! haha...

We bought the house 2 years ago...it's my first house.

You can email me at kmq102@yahoo.com to discuss options off of the board.
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For what it's worth, I just removed about 250 sf of asbestos/asphalt tile from my place, and it wasn't that big a deal. Now, I'm not an expert on asbestos abatement, so maybe it was a big mistake and I'll die of lung cancer. But I'm willing to take my chances. Here's how I did mine and it went fine:

I sealed off the area I was working on, opened the windows and shut off the furnace. I used a particulate air (purple) respirator, and segregated the clothes I wore while working on it.

I popped the tiles up very gently using a 6" metal putty knife to minimize breakage. They came off the slab pretty easily. I double bagged the tiles in heavy bags and took them to the local hazmat center for disposal.

The black mastic I took off with bean-e-doo, which is harmless, keeps the area wet, and worked well enough. I found it worked better if I left it on overnight. Then I used the same 6" putty knife and an old dustpan to scrape up the goo and put it in an old paint can for disposal.

Finally cleaned all the oil and residue off the floor with TSP and water until the slab was clean.

It came out very nicely, and wasn't too expensive. The bean-e-doo will run you about $40 per 150 sf depending on how thickly you put it on. Otherwise all it cost was the cost of the respirator, bags, and putty knife.

Once again I know nothing about asbestos abatement, and it's not illegal in my state to do it yourself. Just sharing how I chose to do it - I really couldn't stomach the idea of putting more floor over it and stomping it into a more powdery state for someone else to deal with years from now.

At the same time I didn't want to pay a whole bunch of money for someone to deal with non-friable asbestos.
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So, after reviewing the pictures the question remains...do I cover after sealing or remove as much as possible? I am not sure of the laws in Pa. I cannot track down anything online. My worry is that I remove now and when we go to sell we get caught and pay out the wazoo..
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OH my these are the tiles I have in my house and I had them tested. Asbestos loaded indeed. I am now trying to figure out how to seal them in or remove them. Look up your city's local asbestos removal website

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Old 01-27-2008, 10:16 AM   #29
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Ok, decided to remove the tiles. Accidentally popped up one yesterday anyway. Here is my latest question...i will remove them next week and wet scrap up as much mastic as possible. Do I then use self level or thinset...let dry then tile? I need to frame out a door for the water heater and heater.

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If you decide to remove the asbestos tiles, I highly recommend using dry ice to freeze the tiles. Our tiles wouldn't budge. They were glued down with black mastic. I got about ten blocks of dry ice and laid them out on the floor, one per tile. I waited a couple of minutes and bingo! They popped right up in one peice. Not many asbestos particles to worry about since the tiles didn't break. I just kept rotating the blocks of ice until the job was done. Used a special thinset from one of the big box stores and laid new tiles right on top of the mastic (the mastic may have asbestos too). Be sure to ventalate the room well when using the dry ice so you don't get CO2 poisoning...open a couple of windows.

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