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Old 01-03-2017, 08:51 PM   #1
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p { margin-bottom: 0.25cm; line-height: 120%; }a:link { } So here's the problem.


I am trying to replace some crummy old thin what do you call them even? - fake linoleum stickdown floor tiles? With ceramic.


The problemm is making the transition to the adjacent wood floor as neatly as possible.


The gap between the subfloor and the hardwood is about 17mm (about 7/16)
so there was 1/2 plywood over that subfloor, presumably to build it up.


The new tiles plus the mesh lath measures 10mm. Add the mortar (1mm) and I will be about 11mm height.


Had I installed the new tile and mesh over the 1/2 plywood, I would have been... well proud of the hardwood, like 5mm / 3/16 high.
Having removed the plywood, I am now about the same low.


So, what do I do?
Wife says ignore it and slap in some filler piece, like quarter round.


That bugs me.


So, do I lay NEW plywood down to build up the difference?
3/16 ? does that even exist?
Otherwise, what are my reasonable options?


Ideally I would like to lay the new tile and presto! Have it all flush and level (but given I am also a novice tiler, what are the odds of that?)


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Can you just cut a transition.... it is difficult to marry 2 floors exactly to each other...

This on just happens to be drying right now....
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You could also get a regular piece of T transition and remove 3/16" (the height difference between the finished hardwood and tile) from the underside of the transition that will sit on the hardwood....this will leave the transition level. You would need some tools e.g. table saw or router to do this.
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I am by no means an expert on this having only done a similar project with laminate flooring married against tile. I glued the last strip to the floor adjacent to the tile and it looked great. I don't like the transition tees. There's nothing like a nice smooth, continuous transition.

Couple of questions. Is that new plywood you put down (shown in the pic) or is it existing? What is under that plywood? How big of an area are we talking about?

My initial thought was to replace your underlayment with a thicker plywood. I've also seen tile setters use a mixture of mortar and quikrete to build up areas that are low. It's not easy. Probably not something for a novice.

The transition idea that MTN showed looks like a good solution. I'll keep that in mind as I will be doing a flooring project soon (depending on how much the wifey bugs me!). I'm dreading it because of this very reason, a couple offsets in the existing flooring. LOL
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this space is pretty small, just an entranceway measuring 7ft x 6ft so... 43 sqft.
in the picture that is old plywood.
under the plywood? are the joists I think and just an empty basement area.
IN the end I opted to lay down new sheets of mahogany underlay which is exactly 3/16" and so brings everything up basically level.
I agree that butting the tile right up to the hardwood looks like a nice clean transition. (I only got the plywood and the mesh installed today. scratch coat and tiles are for another day)

I'll let you all know how it goes.
thanks for your attention.

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Can you just cut a transition.... it is difficult to marry 2 floors exactly to each other...

This on just happens to be drying right now....
that's a great tip.
though I won't use it for this job.
question. is that a stock piece of beveled wood or did you make it custom?
I guess with a table saw (which I don't have) it wouldn't be that hard to trim down a piece to suit.
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Just be sure to use some flexible caulk, not grout, for the joint between the tile and the hardwood floor. There needs to be a little bit of give and take between the two to allow for expansion/contraction of the wood.
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that's a great tip.
though I won't use it for this job.
question. is that a stock piece of beveled wood or did you make it custom?
I guess with a table saw (which I don't have) it wouldn't be that hard to trim down a piece to suit.
PJ.... That's just 3/4 oak board (with 1/4 hardboard glued to the underside for a buildup) ripped/sanded.

Yes... Easy with a table saw... really difficult without.

Actually, we wanted a transition/break... as, if you look closely, the tiles do not match exactly and the entry is 20" and the laundry is 18".

I find it easier in most cases to just make/cut/stain-to-my-color a transition, rather than go and try to find one.

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