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10-24-2009, 09:23 AM
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#331
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I love fishing & building
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 6
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Originally Posted by zel
I am considering this floor as a cheap alternative to wood/laminate, over my concrete basement floor.
For anyone unfamiliar with this floor, it is a floating vynil floor that comes in planks similar to laminate. On one short and one long side of each plank, there is a piece of vynil sticking out roughly 1" with adhesive on it. The install is similar to a T-n-G type floor in that the pieces have to go in the correct direction. Every piece you install adheres to the previous pieces on 2 edges.
I'm wondering if anyone has installed this and what has been your experience with it? Also, how has it held up over time? Do the seems separate?
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10-24-2009, 11:07 PM
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#332
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Newbie
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 4
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OK, thank you to those who posted about removing the pebble from the Allure Trafficmaster, worked great.
The problem now though is that the areas if the adhesive strips where I lifted the flooring are not sticking, and nothing I do will get it to stick again.
I need something, some kind of adhesive to squirt in there.
My first thought is ShoeGoo...and recommendations? I only have one shot.
Also, is it true that the room has to stay above a certain temp? If so I may be in trouble, this is a rec room and is only heated when there's an event.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Cheers
Jim
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10-28-2009, 07:47 AM
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#333
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Newbie
Join Date: Oct 2009
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I installed this flooring in my basement and was quite happy with it for the first few months. I even recommended it to my friend and we installed it in his cottage. Mine is in my basement and it's become my nightmare! It's curling up everywhere and the glue that Home Depot gave me to try to fix it is not that good either. It's like crazy glue in a small bottle and it's almost impossible to get it into the joint, press it back into place and not get some squeezing out onto the surface. I have approximately 1000 feet of this material layed and at least 1/2 of it is curling and lifting. So far the cottage floor is good, but it hasn't seen a winter yet. H/d has offerred to replace the floor if the glue doesn't work out and I think I'm going to have to take them up on their offer. I would never use this stuff again. What a lot of work for nothing. I would just use one piece vinyl in the future and pay someone to lay it.
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10-28-2009, 10:01 AM
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#334
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Newbie
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: West Chester, PA
Posts: 13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nightmare2
1/2 of it is curling and lifting
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I've never used Allure, but have used a similar product. One of the problems with the tacky parts that join together need to be kept VERY clean before and during installation. It can be very easy to get them dusty, thus reducing their ability to stick.
TrafficMaxter doesn't help much by provide big sheets to cover the entire plank. They could do themselves a favor and provide better covering strips that actually stick to the adhesive until the installer is ready to install the product. Until then, they will continue to deal with folks complaining about the product curling and lifting.
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10-28-2009, 11:37 AM
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#335
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Newbie
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 3
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I'm a skilled tradesman and I can read. I've been doing this stuff for years and this flooring never was exposed to dust. It's not a good product
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10-29-2009, 03:15 PM
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#336
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Newbie
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 5
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If anybody is having trouble with this flooring you NEED to call the parent company...Halstead International. They are aware of the problem. There was a bad batch of Allure flooring produced. I have some unused bad and good batches. You can definately feel a diffrence in the "stickiness" between the good and bad batches. I laid about 1,000 square ft in my basement and about half of it is seperating.
The manufacture date on the bad box of flooring that I have is 8/2008. I do not know if there are any other bad dates. Halstead was very helpful and concerned when I called them. They hired a local inspector to come out and verify the problems i was having. This was last week. I suspect Halstead will be offering me some kind of compensation. I have confirmed that people with bad batches have been getting full/partial refunds. When I hear back from them I will post here....
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10-29-2009, 03:23 PM
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#337
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Newbie
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 3
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Thanx. I couldn't find the manufacturer's name. The flooring Dept. manager at H/D said he had some trouble around that time as well. That's about when I bought mine. I've tried the glie but the more I fix, the more the problem just travels along the joint. If I don't get any satisfaction from this guy soon, I'll contact them.
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10-29-2009, 03:26 PM
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#338
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Newbie
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 27
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I am getting ready to lay about 22 cartons in my basement on concrete. I don't have any moisture, condensation problems. But the more I read, the more hesitant I am to go through all the labor of putting it down. If I do, I will be rolling with heavy roller after putting down.
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10-29-2009, 04:05 PM
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#339
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Newbie
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 3
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Doug, I never had any moisture either and layed it directly on the concret like they say you can. I think I may have a little moisture under there now though just from this stuff creating a moisture barrier. I think If I had the stuff and wanted to use it, I'd lay a plastic moisture barrier first - maybe that's why this is so bad. I have close to 1000 feet of it installed and most of it's curling up. The glue I got from H/D is like crazy glue and it won't hold some of the joints together. Good Luck!
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10-29-2009, 04:33 PM
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#340
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Newbie
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 27
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Thanks Nightmare 3 ... I have laid a couple of planks directly on the floor for about 3-4 weeks and have not seen any moisture underneath yet. In additon, however, to concerns about whether or not the planks will curl or not stick ... I have a basement room that has a small "foyer" or entry into a larger room that is divided by a half wall and a bar and that also leads into a bathroom. All of which I plan to put the Allure down on. As I try to plan how to do it, it seems as if I am going to have some definite challenges that a simple, purely rectangular room would not present. So I think I am going to have to be a bit creative in laying the stuff. Sorry you are experiencing problems ... I hope the manufacturer offers you some relief ... like total reimbursement. Good luck.
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10-29-2009, 08:11 PM
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#341
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Newbie
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: michigan
Posts: 1
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My husband and I installed this flooring in our basement recreation room in 2008 and we love it. It was easy to install and we get lots of compliments from anyone who sees it. Since installation we had two floodings in the basement. The water was about 1 inch. The area of the basement where the flooding occurred showed no damage. So when it says waterproof, believe it.
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10-30-2009, 12:09 PM
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#342
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Newbie
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 1
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don't settle for what they have at the store...
I'm ordering the flooring through my local Home Depot. I ordered one box of the color I like (they have a brochure that shows all of the colors available--many more than what an individual store keeps in stock). After I get it and, hopefully like that one, I'm ordering the amount I need to be delivered to the store and I'll pick it up. That way I'm not paying for shipping or the higher price that I'd pay if I'd ordered it online. I think it will turn out to cost $1.99/sq ft. Can't beat that! Good luck!
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Originally Posted by techdude
I'll be undertaking this project as well. It's going in the basement and i'm not too concerned with it taking a beating. The real stuff is in my upstairs. I just can't believe HomeDepot.com wants to charge me 400 bucks online to ship the stuff. They're insane. I'll just purchase one of the few selections they have at my local shop. Currently it's only Cherry, Oak, Hickory and saw some Teak in there recently. Anyone install something that they liked? My family all seems to like the Cherry.
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10-30-2009, 12:17 PM
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#343
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Newbie
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 27
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I, too, ordered directly through Home Depot with no shipping charges. I ordered 21 cases. Each carton is pretty heavy ... I would guess about 40 pounds each ... just to let you know.
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11-07-2009, 03:52 AM
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#344
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Newbie
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 2
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Not approved for summer cabin or RV!
According to the installation instructions from Konecto this stuff is not appropriate for a room that is not maintained between 65 and 85 degrees.
So I can not use it for my summer cabin (which freezes up in the winter) or my motorhome (which is not heated in the winter).
I really wonder about it in a house. My house is not always between 65 and 85 degrees.
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11-13-2009, 09:56 PM
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#345
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Newbie
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 1
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Don't use this product I just got a refund from halstead. the glue won't hold
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