 |
12-29-2011, 08:06 PM
|
#1
|
|
Newbie
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 1
|
Sweaty concrete
Hello everyone,
I'm planning on putting laminate flooring on concrete in one room in my basement. However, when I pulled the current carpet, the pad was moist in some places.
I know that concrete sweats, but, can I tell if I have a serious problem.
Note: the wooden carpet tacks were perfect with no sign of water damage -- so it does not look like water is coming from the foundation.
Thanks.
|
|
|
Warning: The topics covered on this site include activities in which there exists the potential for serious injury or death. DIYChatroom.com DOES NOT guarantee the accuracy or completeness of any information contained on this site. Always use proper safety precaution and reference reliable outside sources before attempting any home improvement task!
12-29-2011, 08:17 PM
|
#2
|
|
Member
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Hartfield VA
Posts: 18,210
|
Sweaty concrete
Not all concrete sweatsTape a piece of plastic down on the floor, wait 48 hours, moisture on the back side will tell your there's rising moisture from the slab not having a vaper barrer under it.
Any moisture and no laminite will work.
|
|
|
12-29-2011, 09:04 PM
|
#3
|
|
Pro Flooring Installer
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: SW Missouri
Posts: 3,140
|
Sweaty concrete
Or you could do a real mosture test and know for sure.
__________________
"I'm twisted, not sick. Sick implies, I'll get better"
Semi-Retired Installer
Installing since 1973
|
|
|
12-29-2011, 09:10 PM
|
#4
|
|
Member
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Hartfield VA
Posts: 18,210
|
Sweaty concrete
And what's the chance a DIY has a moisture meter laying around?
|
|
|
12-29-2011, 09:24 PM
|
#5
|
|
Tileguy
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 9,104
|
Sweaty concrete
Quote:
|
OP: ..."when I pulled the current carpet, the pad was moist in some places."
|
Quote:
|
Tape a piece of plastic down on the floor, wait 48 hours, moisture on the back side will tell your there's rising moisture from the slab
|
Quote:
|
OP: ..."when I pulled the current carpet, the pad was moist in some places."
|
Quote:
|
Tape a piece of plastic down on the floor, wait 48 hours, moisture on the back side will tell your there's rising moisture from the slab
|
Quote:
|
OP: ..."when I pulled the current carpet, the pad was moist in some places."
|
Anyone else see any humor in this exchange? Somebody hasn't been paying attention.
|
|
|
|
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Bud Cline For This Useful Post:
|
|
12-29-2011, 09:38 PM
|
#6
|
|
Pro Flooring Installer
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: SW Missouri
Posts: 3,140
|
Sweaty concrete
Quote:
Originally Posted by joecaption
And what's the chance a DIY has a moisture meter laying around?
|
Sometimes it is just in a DIYers best interest to do things right.
__________________
"I'm twisted, not sick. Sick implies, I'll get better"
Semi-Retired Installer
Installing since 1973
|
|
|
12-30-2011, 09:10 AM
|
#7
|
|
gravity always wins
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Central Pennsylvania
Posts: 2,386
|
Sweaty concrete
Current technology just doesn't allow us to stare them in the eye or lead them by the hand. The best we can do is type at them and hope they understand.
|
|
|
12-30-2011, 09:57 AM
|
#8
|
|
Civil Engineer
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Boston
Posts: 3,559
|
Sweaty concrete
Concrete does not "sweat". A person or animal sweats, because they expel moisture within their body as part of the cooling mechanism used by many vertebrates.
Concrete conducts moisture from the soil beneath the floor upwards into the room when the vapor pressure in the room is lower than the vapor pressure in the soil. This can happen if the soil is saturated, which can generate high vapor pressure, and the room is conditioned.
The normal fix for this problem is to install a vapor barrier beneath the concrete, such as plastic, bentonite panels, or other waterproof material. If this was not done when the slab was installed, it is expensive to install after the fact. Sounds like it was not done in your case. Installing a vapor barrier above the concrete is theoretically possible, but not likely to be very effective (see multiple threads on DryLok and similar products).
My suggestion is to confirm the moisture issue with the moisture meter, which you can rent. This will tell you the moisture content of the concrete. The moisture meter gage will have a standard range of moisture for dry concrete, which is going to be low, since cured concrete has essentially zero free moisture in it unless it is in contact with a water source, which is probably what is happening in your case.
Assuming the concrete is moist, my suggestion is to forget about the laminate, use only moisture resistant materials, which could include certain paints, and possibly vinyl flooring. Live with the moisture, it is not going away on its own.
|
|
|
12-30-2011, 10:11 AM
|
#9
|
|
Pro Flooring Installer
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: SW Missouri
Posts: 3,140
|
Sweaty concrete
Concrete also condenses moisture from the air since it tends to get colder than the surrounding air.
__________________
"I'm twisted, not sick. Sick implies, I'll get better"
Semi-Retired Installer
Installing since 1973
|
|
|
-->
| Thread Tools |
Search this Thread |
|
|
|
| Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
|