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4just1don 12-01-2008 11:14 AM

stamped concrete for kitchen floor???
In my quest for a lower cost MORE durable floor covering for a rental,,,would stamped concrete work??

I saw it on a 'fippin' show last nite,,, and my lightbilbs went off.

I am thinking the joists are 2 X8 on about 20 " centers with 3/4 t &g subfloor abd full thickness (about 3/4) old time oak floor over that On about 11 foot spans.

For inside a house,,,are there maintance issues?? can you roll a frig on it?? Or scoot chairs and tables??

Thanks for any input!!!!-d-

Bud Cline 12-01-2008 01:40 PM

The trouble with those shows is you never really know the true outcome of those projects. Is it do-able? Yes it's do-able if it is done correctly, but sounds like you won't like the cost.:)

Probably not the thing to do in a rental.:)

yesitsconcrete 12-02-2008 06:08 AM

1st, quit watchin' those shows :laughing: they always come in late on scheduling & over-budget from what i've seen.

you'd normally need closer joist spacing or the flex'd result in many hairline crks leading to eventual failure,,, however, from your post, w/present 3/4" t&g + oak it'd seem sufficiently strong.

this is our main work & i don't have it in my house :whistling2: when we pull the carpet in the family room ( 24 x 24 ) & expose the conc, we probably will, tho.

4just1don 12-02-2008 01:44 PM

Just thinking,,,they are as PRETTY as a ceramic tile floor,,,NO grout joints, only downside I can think of is they would be 'cold' altho let people put down area rugs if they want!! Is their stamps that would be smooth enough to scrub and clean, yet rough enough not to be slipperry when wet with tracked in snow etc??

bradnailer 12-02-2008 03:19 PM

Seems like they would be very difficult to keep clean with crud getting in the stamped cracks.

Bud Cline 12-02-2008 08:25 PM

There are many many rubber stamps available that will mimic all types of tile and stone. They run from extreme relief to basic flat tile patterns.

If you have ever been to Las Vegas you have probably noticed all the tile and stone floors almost everywhere you go. The thing is...most of what you see there isn't tile OR stone. It is stamped concrete. Some the most perfect installations I have ever seen are in Las Vegas. The finishes are beautiful and the maintenance would have to be minimal or they wouldn't be doing it there. Durability is supreme.:)

A good example is at Mandalay Bay where there is an endless corridor that takes you from the main hotel and casino to the aquarium. It's a long walk along a beautiful cobblestone concourse that passes by shops and clubs and restaurants. The finish is an amazing pearlized cobblestone that is in fact stamped concrete.

Another good example is the Luxor. The walkways are full of ancient sandstone paths with their cleaved sandstone and slate look. They appear as ancient as the pyramids themselves. Stamped concrete again.:)

4just1don 12-02-2008 11:02 PM

never been to Vegas and not planning on it now,,,,the gamble of my life involves buying houses,,,thats as risky as I get.

remeasured today when over there,,,length of span 10',,, strangest house I ever saw,,,house is 20' wide and NOT 2 10 foot floor joists that meet on the center beam,,,its a 20 footer from side to side supported by beam in center. Found out this floor joist cut clear thru on other side(in bathroom area) so the cast stack can run right there,,,NO support added to either side. THEN screwballs must have cut next one because stool came up there.

Somehow some 10 foot joists are going in there,,,might as well add a few to kitchen too. I will stick a jack between the beam and the subfloor IF I have to to flex floor 'up' to slide joists in place!! If that dosnt work might have to cut all the floor out and put joists in from top and replywood subfloor. I wonderd why when I jacked the floor back up level the stool leaked(oops moment). Two walls in plumbing wall (2 inches apart)one came up,,,other stayed down!!! One of those days that "I" think builders should be required to sign something on site that says who built the house(so I can deliver a posey of dandelions to their place of residence!!!)50 years later no less!!!LOL!!!

Jeeper1970 12-03-2008 08:21 AM

I've been thinking about a concrete floor whenever I get around to doing my kitchen. I've seen a lot of stamped concrete, but some of the best I've seen weren't stamped at all. Just pour it, float it, then take a 8" or 9" handheld tile float or drywall blade and play with it a little adding a little texture and unevenness, add some powder stain so the color is uneven, and let it dry. Put an epoxy finish on it (I think it's epoxy they use, could be wrong on the finish), the end product will look like a huge rock slab, and cost less than stamping.

I'm not sure I'd do it over wood, though, nor would I do it on the second floor. Wood expands and contracts, the second floor will flex, both will cause cracks, combined could cause a lot of cracking.

yesitsconcrete 12-03-2008 08:39 AM

we do this work over wood regularly,,, thin-stamp'd or hand-trowel'd works best for interior work,,, it can be either colored integrally, acid-stain'd, or tinted w/proprietaty systems,,, nothing in the apron stores'll work.

we'll sometimes place epoxy over it but, if so, always place a toughter urethane finish to protect the epoxy.

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