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Old 10-17-2013, 07:39 PM   #1
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Several weeks ago, I took the carpet out of my stairs, thinking I will redo it myself with Retrotreads and Retrorisers
But I've been traveling a lot recently for my job, and I obviously don't have time to do it myself. So we hired someone
I told him I wanted the cuts on the side to be as tight as possible since I don't want gaps...
This is what I have do far on the 4 first treads.....(they are not attached to the stairs for now)
I know it's not easy to make nice cuts, especially on my stairs since the stringers are not parallel (this is common) and on top of it they are curved...but still, I am "disappointed"
So now, what are my options: do you think it can be fixed with wood filer?
What would be the best wood filler to use (retrotreads are red oak)
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Old 10-17-2013, 07:52 PM   #2
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That is unacceptable by my standards. I would have your carpenter buy new treads and redo the job. If he isn't qualified then I'd fire him, cut my losses and hire a true stair carpenter.

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I agree.....But before going to drastic solution, I was trying to find if there was some possibilities to fix what is - unfortunately - already done

Can I hope to fix it with wood filler, at least for the treads already cut? Will it be barely visible, or it will always stay visible?
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If this were my stairs, I would install a thin skirt board on each side. Here is a link showing how it is done.
http://www.thisiscarpentry.com/2011/...-skirt-boards/

The only thing I would do different from this illustration is I wouldn't cut the nosing out of the skirt, I would cut the tread nosing back to the riser and slide the skirt down into the cut.
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Looks like he's trying to cut them with a ciruler saw by hand.
May have came out better if he used a stair gage and a 12" sliding compound miter saw to be able to mark and cut these right the first time in one pass.
http://www.ljsmith.net/products.aspx...10&product=439
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Wood filler will look terrible. It will be clearly visible and not blend in with the wood grain.
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Looks like he's trying to cut them with a ciruler saw by hand.
May have came out better if he used a stair gage and a 12" sliding compound miter saw to be able to mark and cut these right the first time in one pass.
http://www.ljsmith.net/products.aspx...10&product=439
Yes, circular saw...However, what is the "trick" when the stringers are curved (banana shape)?

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How about an overall shot of the staircase? Is it a curved staircase?
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Back up so we can get an overall picture.
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Here are pictures of my staircase - As you can see, its straight. But on most of the treads, stringers have a slight "banana" shape. I know a stair gage helps to measure angles, but when there are curves, cuts are more difficult, right?
The dimension of my current stairs are as described on picture #3 it means if I go with the regular installation for the Retrotreads, Im stuck with treads that will only be 91/2 in depth (picture #4) ..!!!
What would be your suggestions (without having to buy a new house......)
If I want to increase the depth of the treads, my only option is to keep the riser recessed - But then the stair nose becomes bigger.....(picture #5)
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That is a bad situation, it looks like you have way to much over hang which is another trip hazard, but if you correct the over hang you will have a short step like you said. We can't see how much room you have at the foot of your stairs, so we can't recommend a tear out and extend the entire unit.

If there is enough room at the foot to extend the stairs that would be the correct thing to do to make the stairs in code and look right. There is not a simple solution to fix your stairs and I personally recommend an experienced stair build as it would be an involved project. JMHO

Another thing, on cutting with a circular saw, scribe the line, cut outside or leave the line, then use a belt sander to sand back to the line while under cutting so the top edge will touch and fit tighter.
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Does this help?
The idea would be to extend from the bottom of the stairs?
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What are my options other than redo a brand new stair that will cost a lot of money?
If I have to pick one solution, which one is less problematic: stair noses too long or tread not deep enough, or some kind of compromise in between?

Or any other suggestion?

Thank you.....
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How much do you have in those covers? Why not just tear out the 2x's and install solid 1" treads? I guarantee the cost would be less than what you have. Maybe $35 to $40 each?

Do new skirts while you have the 2x's out.
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How much do you have in those covers? Why not just tear out the 2x's and install solid 1" treads? I guarantee the cost would be less than what you have. Maybe $35 to $40 each?

Do new skirts while you have the 2x's out.
What do you mean by tear out the 2x's? Cut and remove the existing pine treads?
Problem is I don't know how they are attached, and where.....!!!!
I don't want to have to remove/redo the stringers !!!

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