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vote4Pedro 11-21-2011 06:02 PM

small spacers for woodgrain ceramic tiles? maybe none?
 
i've finally purchased planks of 6x24 wood grain tiles and about to install them. however several questions comes about that i'm seeking some help on.


1. are spacers needed? the manufacture box recommends 1/8 spacers but with the odd side, i don't think it's gonna look as good. is going smaller or potentially no spacer an option??

2. how to tile wood grain tile planks? i believe normal wood floors are started by one wall while ceramic floor tiling starts in the center of the room to ensure evenness. with planks like these, should i start at a wall or in the middle for the best end result.

the pattern i'm going for will most likely be something like this
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_jLheoDPFsi...+floor+007.JPG

tx

JazMan 11-21-2011 10:19 PM

Hello again Pedro,

1. Yes you must have space between tiles. You don't need, (and for me I wouldn't want) spacers to create a space. 1/8" or less is the way to go. You're not gonna fool too many people thinking it's hardwood.

2. There is no reason to start a tile installation in the center or even near it. I have never done that and to me it would make little sense. You need to lay a bunch of tile loose and determine the best width at the walls. Once you've got that, snap chalk line parallel to the longest "main" wall and start working your way out of the room.

If you start in the center you're gonna turn a 2-3 day job into 4-5, or more.

Jaz

vote4Pedro 11-21-2011 11:13 PM

thanks, the job starts tomorrow..

JazMan 11-22-2011 10:58 PM

Pedro, yesterday you said..........

Quote:

thanks, the job starts tomorrow..
OK, it's late, we want a report on how it went.:whistling2:

Jaz

vote4Pedro 11-22-2011 11:31 PM

got the 1/16th spacers. (~ i know you don't like spacers.. but i didn't know of another option ~)

took out about 4 boxes of tiles to do a dry run. it's currently more time consuming since 1. match wood pattern has proven to be very difficult. 2. cleaning the edges so the tiles can be perfectly level took longer than i thought 3. mopping the floor.. i don't know how it got so dirty. i mopped like 5 times.

we've decided to start tiling at the wall where the stairs go down to the basement per your advice

JazMan 11-22-2011 11:38 PM

OK. Just measure from the starting point lines to the opposite walls at several spaces to make sure you end up right. You don't want cut pieces that get smaller as you go. Keep the joints clean on thinset by sponging as you go.

I assume you have all the right products and have done this before.

Jaz

vote4Pedro 11-23-2011 12:41 AM

have done a small kitchen project (60-100sq ft) with granite tiles.. this will be the biggest undertaking to date in addition to the odd sizing of 6x24.

since it's an old brownstone building, the dims are not perfectly rectangular will cause a bit of problem. i hope to minimize it with how i space the tiles. other than that, there are slight imperfections on the existing concrete floor that have minor high/low spots which i hope to fill out with thinset. none of the high/lows are over 1/2 (maybe even less) so i'm planning on playing with the thinset a bit to ensure that each tile is water leveled. finally i'm taking my time on this one considering the time it took me to match up the wood grains.. i'm planning a full 2 weeks to complete this job (after work hours).

vote4Pedro 12-21-2011 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JazMan (Post 777305)
Pedro, yesterday you said..........



OK, it's late, we want a report on how it went.:whistling2:

Jaz


here it is. a little late in getting the pics out of my phone

http://i40.tinypic.com/1z2ovpd.jpg

CaptRandy 12-22-2011 01:53 PM

What flooring are you laying them over? Did you put down a subfloor? Did you lay down any underlayment? Be sure to give the gap at the ends to allow for expansion. The 1/2 round will fill in the gap. Just be sure not to nail the 1/4 round into the flooring but rather into the wall area past where your floor board end.

Bud Cline 12-22-2011 02:24 PM

I wouldn't pursue photography as a second career.

I'm really interest in seeing that floor but with a better photo.

vote4Pedro 12-22-2011 04:40 PM

aight bud.. get ready for some over sized pics that breaks the forum

Bud Cline 12-22-2011 04:46 PM

Quote:

get ready for some over sized pics that breaks the forum
Don't do that!
Can't you re-size the pictures before posting here?

vote4Pedro 12-22-2011 05:02 PM

not sure how to resize so i'll just post the links

edge against the brick wall
http://i39.tinypic.com/2dr77t0.jpg


in front of the eventual bar area
http://i42.tinypic.com/9h8d3p.jpg

floor with some stuff already placed on it
http://i51.tinypic.com/2vb3f5h.jpg

near the stairs
http://i51.tinypic.com/2551e0w.jpg


as for underlayment, it's in the basement so it's on a concrete slab. per bud's suggestion before, i measure it to be pretty even so i just laid right on top of that

<*(((>< 12-22-2011 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptRandy (Post 800458)
What flooring are you laying them over? Did you put down a subfloor? Did you lay down any underlayment? Be sure to give the gap at the ends to allow for expansion. The 1/2 round will fill in the gap. Just be sure not to nail the 1/4 round into the flooring but rather into the wall area past where your floor board end.

Leave room for tile to expand? :huh:

CaptRandy 12-22-2011 07:39 PM

Are they glued down? How do they adhere to each other? Never seen them so wonder.


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