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Old 09-25-2009, 08:07 PM   #106
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Those spray-on sealers are useless. In fact there was one brand a few years ago that put scores of people in the hospital with chemical pneumonia and there were also fatalities. That isn't why they are useless but it's reason enough to stay away from them.

Use one of the liquids that can be painted-on and you can see what is happening.

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Old 09-25-2009, 09:26 PM   #107
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Those spray-on sealers are useless. In fact there was one brand a few years ago that put scores of people in the hospital with chemical pneumonia and there were also fatalities. That isn't why they are useless but it's reason enough to stay away from them.

Use one of the liquids that can be painted-on and you can see what is happening.

10-4 will return... what brand do you recommend? Are they all the same once I get a liquid?

Also will I still use my 1/4" by 3/16" V trowel to put on my 12x12 tiles? I think that's what i read to use with the kerdi!

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Old 09-26-2009, 12:33 PM   #108
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My tile floor in shower is leaking through to crawlspace. Also about 1' into flooring outisde shower is leaking and the grout is all broken up. Just noticed since I moved the rug.
THere is black fury mold on the plywood that is outside the shower. Will replace that so all that tile in that area will come up but....

I went to HD looking for the tile the guy said discotinued years ago! how would you approach the flooring.
i agree, i would gut and start over. when you do, you'll prob find more issues.
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after looking at your pics, i would gut the whole bathroom. by looking at it, you have a good layout and could really make a statement with some creative tile work in there...it's a ton of work but take pics as you proceed and the end result will be worth it. check out the pebble sqs available on the market that a lot of folks are using in showers now. a couple of good suppliers are solistone, stratastones and every floor...dare to get creative and you'll be pleased with results...
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after looking at your pics, i would gut the whole bathroom. by looking at it, you have a good layout and could really make a statement with some creative tile work in there...it's a ton of work but take pics as you proceed and the end result will be worth it. check out the pebble sqs available on the market that a lot of folks are using in showers now. a couple of good suppliers are solistone, stratastones and every floor...dare to get creative and you'll be pleased with results...

I thought about that.

There is already 2 different types of tile in the bath... and I am not sure how to do somehting fancy. My wife and I have looked at alot of pictures and just don't see much that will match/go with everything existing.

Will keep looking though have not tiled yet

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after looking at your pics, i would gut the whole bathroom. by looking at it, you have a good layout and could really make a statement with some creative tile work in there...it's a ton of work but take pics as you proceed and the end result will be worth it. check out the pebble sqs available on the market that a lot of folks are using in showers now. a couple of good suppliers are solistone, stratastones and every floor...dare to get creative and you'll be pleased with results...
I read it wrong the 1st time.

Really do not have the money or time. This project has taken almost 2 months and about $1500 - It's just the shower. That bathroom is 200 Sq ft.

I would love to though. It's outdated
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Everything look ok Bud? Plan to start tiling from ceiling tommorrow.

THere is 5" band meeting together then a kerdi piece cut for the top will that be good enough?

I Think i should have used one piece of band all the way....



THis look ok?



Need to buy one more piece of outter edge to finish right side... or can I do like top corners?

Do you generally get a piece of solid stone to make your second shelf? just rough in when I tile? I know it will need to be tilted to.



Yes i love the bulky layers make me feel safer

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Great thread going here folks! Ineedhelp2009, when your shower project is all finished you might consider posting your pictures in the "How To" subforum. A how to build a Kerdi shower tutorial with some step by step description of the work would really benefit others who come here for help with their showers.
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I agree that's why I have been posting as I go

But Bud on the other hand......has been a great teacher.....My original route was for sure a future problem. He needs a paypal donation button on his sig
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I read it wrong the 1st time.

Really do not have the money or time. This project has taken almost 2 months and about $1500 - It's just the shower. That bathroom is 200 Sq ft.

I would love to though. It's outdated
well looks like your doing fine...keep up the good work...
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How to you make a second shelf in your niches? Glass? Solid stone?
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Hard to tell for sure what's going on but everything looks OK. As long as you have maintained a two-inch lap of the KERDI everywhere that's all they say is necessary.

The bulk created when lapping the KERDI is always an issue. I use thinset to feather out-and-away from the bulk to keep smaller tiles from wanting to take a dive or teetor when crossing the bulky areas.

A second shelf in a niche isn't a problem. It can be set into the tile as you go. For niche shelves sometimes I use stone, sometimes Corian, some glazed ceramic tiles can be used if they have one edge coated with glazing, unglazed porcelain can be used but you may want to dress-down the tell-tale edge by sanding it to soften any sharp edges.

To the left of the glass block I think I see some raw drywall - what's that all about?

Also, I would caulk the bottoms of the glass block to the KERDI at this point to insure moisture doesn't get under the KERDI at that point. THEN, after the tile is installed caulk that same juncture again.

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Hard to tell for sure what's going on but everything looks OK. As long as you have maintained a two-inch lap of the KERDI everywhere that's all they say is necessary.

The bulk created when lapping the KERDI is always an issue. I use thinset to feather out-and-away from the bulk to keep smaller tiles from wanting to take a dive or teetor when crossing the bulky areas.

A second shelf in a niche isn't a problem. It can be set into the tile as you go. For niche shelves sometimes I use stone, sometimes Corian, some glazed ceramic tiles can be used if they have one edge coated with glazing, unglazed porcelain can be used but you may want to dress-down the tell-tale edge by sanding it to soften any sharp edges.

To the left of the glass block I think I see some raw drywall - what's that all about?

Also, I would caulk the bottoms of the glass block to the KERDI at this point to insure moisture doesn't get under the KERDI at that point. THEN, after the tile is installed caulk that same juncture again.

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maintaining 2-3" overlap
I should have feathered it out... oh well will make mud thinner on high spots when tiling.

Corian I like that idea

Raw dry wall - plan to cover with kerdi. Almost done with kerdi

Will caulk around blocks good eye.
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You mentioned a 3/16x1/4" V trowel to install your tiles in post # 107. Although Schluter now recommends a different sized trowel, that trowel will work to install the Kerdi, definitely not for the 12x12" tiles though. You should be thinking more on the lines of 1/4x3/8x1/4 for those tiles.

The 3/16x1/4 V was the original trowel recommended for both Kerdi & Ditra. Both recommendations have changed. They now recommend 1/8" square for Kerdi.

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You mentioned a 3/16x1/4" V trowel to install your tiles in post # 107. Although Schluter now recommends a different sized trowel, that trowel will work to install the Kerdi, definitely not for the 12x12" tiles though. You should be thinking more on the lines of 1/4x3/8x1/4 for those tiles.

The 3/16x1/4 V was the original trowel recommended for both Kerdi & Ditra. Both recommendations have changed. They now recommend 1/8" square for Kerdi.

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