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Old 11-17-2010, 06:25 AM   #31
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Lawn dart told you the way it is . The only difference in the way I do it is , I do not sand between coats , I buff it with a 120 screen , Lawndart probably means screen . And I don't screen untill the second coat of finish over stain because I have buffed through . I have previuosly given you proffesional advice which you seem to disreguard , Lawn Dart and I are proffesionals . look at the web links ... My site, his site , the woman that said she had professionals do the floor , Well That doesn't appear to be a stain on white oak , It looks like Poly only . You will be ok with the home depot minwax poly , I have used it . also has been said water base is "CRAP ". I use professional water base 2 part pallx 98 . or Berger seidle , both prices far exceed home depot min wax , you get what you pay for . To Endorse what lawn dart said , you can forget 3 coats in one day and don't open the window , Turn the pilots off . Why play with fire and a flammable finish ? DUH ? use your head here . Buff with a 120 screen between the 2nd and 3rd coat , Vacum and tack . If you use a block brush or just a big paint brush you will be better off as a home owner , I POUR the finish on the floor and spread it with a Tbar and applicator , As a home owner you can forget that , It takes practice , USE A LARGE paint brush , You also won't be so likely to be able to get it on very thick , Or thick as I do . Or have the experience to not get it tooooo THICK , So just paint it on. If you need a 4th coat paint it on , It will take you longer , But as a begginner you will do better with a brush , the lambs wool applicator will be your nemisis , It takes skill also . Again just paint it on , I come on here to help people . I have little other purpose , I could be bowling , Or sleeping . Most of the advice except lawn darts is wrong period . The woman that had her floor done by people that opened quart cans for 1.75 per square ft , Well I never seen a pro do a floor with quart cans , And there were animal urine stains left in the floor , I would be embarrased to put my name on that floor , Those boards should of been replaced , She also told you too finish it with a drum sander , WRONG !!! The drum will leave end marks with stain .You have to edge them out then vibe . Then buff the whole thing with 120 screen to make it even . you can take our advice or not . but thats the way it is done . tacomahardwoodfloors.com
First of all not a woman. Your assuumption and i don't know why?

Secondly of all i didn't see the urine stain on the floor due to construction and told the guys not to worry becase i couldn't afford the patch it is in the middle of the floor i can put a rug on it and i mentioned it the thread.
Thirdly I did not tell her to finish with respects to final sanding with a drum sander and i did tell her to screen. Why the hell would you drag a 200lb machine across a freshly stained or laquered floor and expect a clean finish, did you really have to mention that or is everybody in the world stupid except you. When people say finish floors is that the final step or the whole process. It is a term used loosely, which I did.

How long should the floors take to dry without heat in a house with assumed minmal insulation. Did you also mention if it is forced hot air to block registers. Nope. Cold climate= frozen pipes even this time of year. Then what replace the floors.
No need to come and insult people that are agreeing with and even supporting your trade. The guys came and did my floors and i am happy with the job. I told them to leave the stain they did that was my desicion and as a pros you know the customer is right. Yeah you can notice ie but it is not that bad, you are hyper focused on it because it is your trade. It doesn't bother me. When i moved into the hous the home inspector missed the piss stain so blame it on him because it was under a throw rug. I have been out of work for three months and funds are tight. These were observation based advice and it was up to her to research gritting for paper and screen, thats why it is a diy forum.
Sandra did or didn't follow your advice you just assume she didn't and got pissed about it. Get over it. You mad one post. ONE. There are many posts and days and posts in this thread, maybe it got lost init all. You may do good work but if you talked to people like you do a lot of peolpe end to ignore this.
With refernece to the quart cans. Just because you don't do it don't knock it. It works for them. They are easier to store and rotate them in the truck so sediment doesn't settle. Also less waste.
Do you follow factory recomended schedules for all you equipment? Including your vehicles.
My point over all, try not to be as harsh with people and if you can't do that stay in your forum, the contractor side. You just assume a lot of things and some are wrong, but everyone can be wrong. Diyers do appreciate pros advice like you and lawn dart, but lawndart didn't come off as harsh and ass pissed.

Off topic. Tacoma, nice website except not ios compatble for iphone and ipad loss of possible buisness.

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Old 11-17-2010, 04:44 PM   #32
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Thanks for all your help, guys, especially ianc435. Positive reinforcement is always a plus! It turned out beautifully and I saved a ton of money by doing it myself. It's like walking on glass!!!! I love it!!!
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Old 11-17-2010, 04:56 PM   #33
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Hot dam that looks good but i forgot to tell you one thing. Paint base boards after sanding.


You did an excellent job
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Old 11-17-2010, 05:02 PM   #35
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Did you guys buil the knee wall cabinets. Did you have plans. I need those in my hose. Nice decorating.
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Old 11-17-2010, 05:40 PM   #36
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We painted the baseboards but removed the toe moulding. It would have gotten messed up by the sanding and staining and poly application. We'll have to paint the baseboards again anyway, they got marked up. We're buying new toe molding, painting it outside, then we'll attached it.

This is an old 1950s bungalow house. We've gutted practically every room in the house. Those built-ins are original with the house. We love them, too.
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Old 11-17-2010, 05:47 PM   #37
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We used to have a little closet of a bathroom on the second floor. We built this new bathroom and that's what got me started on the idea of
re-doing the bedroom you see here.
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Your floors look beautiful - great work! Looking at pictures of these nice refinished floors lets me know in how bad my 8-year old floors are currently. Ugh - I wish I never opened this thread because now I will be looking at my floors and imagining them with that high-gloss shine.
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Old 11-17-2010, 06:26 PM   #39
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We used to have a little closet of a bathroom on the second floor. We built this new bathroom and that's what got me started on the idea of
re-doing the bedroom you see here.
I hate you. Nice awesome super job. I trying to do that with two ankle biters. I am getting there. Two upstairs picture which got me 10 inches more on my ceiling and a two year cellar bathroom that is almost done. I went with curtains in stead beautiful doors like yours.
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Oh, darn! I love that idea. Why didn't I think of that!! Probably because the ceiling was already there and it never crossed my mind to knock it up a few inches.
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Oh, darn! I love that idea. Why didn't I think of that!! Probably because the ceiling was already there and it never crossed my mind to knock it up a few inches.
The gussets got me structural that in needed which is minimal. There were collar ties every other and they are there to keep the roof from blowing out in a wind storm. Did you guys buy the knee wall dressers or build them?
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You must have missed one of my posts! This is a 1950s bungalow. They're original with the house, but we did build the cubbies in the bathroom.

P.S. FYI: I closed the windows - so no dust. I used a brush around the perimeter but I was intimidated concerning using a brush for the whole thing; there's that nasty issue of brush strokes, so I used the lambswool applicator - that was awesome!
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You must have missed one of my posts! This is a 1950s bungalow. They're original with the house, but we did build the cubbies in the bathroom.

P.S. FYI: I closed the windows - so no dust. I used a brush around the perimeter but I was intimidated concerning using a brush for the whole thing; there's that nasty issue of brush strokes, so I used the lambswool applicator - that was awesome!
Thanks i did miss the post.

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