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Old 07-16-2008, 12:23 PM   #16
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Well, actually you probably will. Since the tile job went so poorly, I started doing some research. I remembered that he used greenboard in the shower over the studs. Everything I've read says this is a baaaad thing. A few things said that if it is done exactly right, it can work, but guess how many things were done exactly right? Yup, none. This guy used to work for a company that remodeled the bathrooms for the Sheraton Hotels, so I didn't even think to check up on what he was doing. I can do a lot of things in the remodel spectrum (I did my own kitchen and it looks wonderful!) but installing tile in a bathroom is not one of them. I guess I know a lot more now. It all has to come out. We are out of money for this project and my husband's three weeks of vacation are over. My 19 month old has no patience for mommy to be building stuff, so it looks like we'll be minus one shower for a while. Luckily we have two others. In the meantime, I will be learning everything I can on the subject, and I'll be doing it my DANG SELF! At least now I know where to come for advice!
Yes sorry to say, it's all bad. Greenboard is a completely obsolete material. It has no place being used as a specialty drywall material.
When tiling in a wet location, you need to stay away from paper-faced materials. Water + paper = mold. What is used in place of gypsum board will be a cement backer material. There are quite a few to choose from. It really comes down to preference. Now, there are products on the market to take it one step further....waterproofing. I am 100% sold on waterproofing all wet locations.
Actually, I'm redoing my own bathroom and here's what I'm using:
Tub surround: 1/2" Hardi board. Kerdi. Porcelain tile.
Other walls & ceiling: 1/2" DensArmor (paperless drywall)
Floor: Proper substructure. Ditra. Kerdi seams. Travertine.

When I'm completed, it will be highly waterproof and mold resistant. Of course, the proper ventilation will be in place too. Nothing I'm doing is considered "hard" to complete. Yes, it costs more than what the average, typical materials would be...but not by a lot. Yes, I get my contractor discounts but here's a secret....(I buy a lot of my materials online so you can get them for the same price!)
I feel bad that you're learning the hard way but it's a lesson that you'll never forget.

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Old 07-16-2008, 08:19 PM   #17
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Yes, definitely learning a lot the hard way. I'm glad to have come to this realization now rather than after cleaning all that thinset out and putting in grout, buying expensive sealer and before any damage occured. I just spoke to my "buddy" and he says he will come pull it all out. I hope he keeps his word. It looks like we might be able to get the new install going sooner than later (thx to my MIL), and I will use a different tile this time. I wasn't in love with the way it turned out, so this may be an okay thing after all.

Besides, knowledge is priceless! You're right, Angus. I will NEVER forget this, and when it's all said and done, maybe I can add tile to my list of skills. I'm going to be referring to your list of materials for the re-do. I was thinking Hardibacker. What are your thoughts on Redguard? I have 3/4 of a bucket of it.
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Oh, BTW. I have Humberto's Sawzall and grinder. If he ever wants to see them alive, he'll show up and do this work! I've always wanted a sawzall. And who can't use a grinder?
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What are your thoughts on Redguard? I have 3/4 of a bucket of it.
I prefer Kerdi. Actually, I will only use Kerdi. Doesn't mean RedGard is a bad product. It just means I feel Kerdi is that much of a better product!

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