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hsmithfarms 08-10-2008 10:00 PM

Porcelain Tile over Linoleum
 
Help! Dying to tile but have some questions:

Situation:

Concrete slab, no visible movements or cracks with vinyl nonpadded linoleum over the top. No curling edges, nothing is coming up. Been installed for about 20 years. Tried to pull a corner and it is securely fastened, doesn't even offer to come up.

Can I tile right over the top?

Thanks. :) H and D

ccarlisle 08-11-2008 07:52 AM

You could; I wouldn't...even nonpadded linoleum deosn't offer the resiliency that I would like under porcelain tiles. Some may live with it, I don't think I could...but then, hey, that's just me! :jester:

You could put something over it to provide a solid backing for the tiles, but do you have that amount of room say for an extra 3/4" on top?

hsmithfarms 08-11-2008 09:38 AM

I do have about 1" to work with if I were to add a layer of cement board down but everything I have read says not to put cement board over cement....??

Thanks.

EdinDesign 08-11-2008 01:55 PM

No... not cement board... what you want is an anti-facture membrane that's intended for use over cement, even if you're putting it on the lino that's on the cement. Kerdi has a great product, but it'll add height to the floor. I've used this great product (can't remember the name - sorry!) that's essentially an interwoven felt pad - it's sticky on one side, you roll an adhesive (a special kind for this underlay) on the floor... lay the pad down and it won't move. Great stuff. Ask a tile supplier... they'll know what you should use.

ccarlisle 08-11-2008 04:53 PM

That's DITRA from Schluter.com.

Bud Cline 08-11-2008 06:58 PM

Quote:

I've used this great product (can't remember the name - sorry!) that's essentially an interwoven felt pad - it's sticky on one side, you roll an adhesive (a special kind for this underlay) on the floor... lay the pad down and it won't move.
EasyMat.

ccarlisle 08-11-2008 07:17 PM

Bud's right...

I can't read. duh. :party:

EdinDesign 08-12-2008 01:50 AM

That's right :) Thanks Bud!
Dittra is the Kerdi I was referring to. Thanks for that, CCarlisle :)

angus242 08-12-2008 02:48 AM

Farmgirl,

Just because something technically can be done doesn't mean it should be (as has already been mentioned).
I'm doing a small tile installation in a town house this week. The customer's neighbor stopped by to see how things were going. He started laughing as he looked around and saw what I was doing. "Why are you laughing?" I asked. He (the neighbor) said he just had the same kind of tile work done in his unit and went with the cheapest quote. His installer put tile over linoleum. His installer never bothered to remove the baseboards and shoe molding. His installer never mentioned a crack isolation membrane. His installer didn't bother to use protective film over the carpet while working. His installer's installation failed in less than a year.
Taking shortcuts doesn't always help. A properly done tile installation will last a long, long time. Does skipping a few days worth of work seem worth it in the long run? :no:

Bud Cline 08-12-2008 09:06 AM

Quote:

Kerdi has a great product, but it'll add height to the floor.
Say What?
KERDI DOES NOT ADD any discernible height to a floor.

Quote:

Dittra is the Kerdi I was referring to.
DITRA and KERDI are two entirely different products. That statement must be a typo.


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