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polarzak 12-19-2011 07:42 AM

Peel and stick on painted concrete?
 
My workshop floor in the basement is painted concrete. The paint is about 40 years old, probably oil based, not flaking but obviously showing wear, and painted on when the house was new. As a little project, (and something to keep me out of trouble while my wife is away) I want to place those peel and stick tiles down. I have searched the site and read various posts but thought I would ask what the current thinking was on peel and stick. Some things to consider.
1. Basement is dry. I have taped down a plastic sheet for a few days to see if there is any condensation. The place is dry, clean, and no mold.
2. Again, it is painted, and in good shape, except for normal wear.
3. I don't care if the tiles don't line up perfectly, as someone said they don't in a post I read.
4. I don't need something that has to stand up to heavy duty wear and tear. My heavy duty workshop days are over, and it is more of a hobby shop now.

I have read some people hate tiles and other love them. I have read that they should never be installed on particle board sub floor, yet I have peel and stick on one of my back entrances that has been down 10 years, and still look great. So, perhaps all the negativity about installing on a basement floor is not warranted.

My thought is to clean the floor well, do a light sanding where the paint is still glossy, wash again, and then peel and stick 'til the cows come home.

Alternatively, I thought about just repainting but I don't want to get into primers, levelers, etc. Perhaps someone has a suggestion about painting it.

Thanks for your help.

rusty baker 12-19-2011 08:16 AM

They usually don't stick very well to paint.

joecaption 12-19-2011 09:28 AM

I would never suggest peel and stick for any floor.
Any long lasting paint for a floor like your would involve a 2, part paint. The single part pants are faster to apply but just do not last as long.
One that I've used and it's held upfor years on a garage floor that was converted to a play room for kids was made by Rustolium. It's two parts and has flakes that get spread over the wet paint just to make it look better. These kids bring in there riding toys, bicycles ect, and have yet to distroy the finish. It just rolled on with a paint roller. A 12 X 24 floor took less then 2 hours to do.

polarzak 12-20-2011 06:45 AM

Thanks folks. I just might go with the two stage paint.

polarzak 12-22-2011 06:43 AM

I went to the big box store to pick up some paint to do my floor and the fellow tells me all I have to do is wash the floor (currently 30 year old oil base in good condition, no flaking) ) with TSP. This would clean and etch the paint so I would only need one coat of a latex floor/porch paint. I didn't think latex could go on oil based paints? Would washing in TSP really etch paint? Would latex really stand up as a floor paint?
Thanks for your help.

rusty baker 12-22-2011 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by polarzak (Post 800153)
I went to the big box store to pick up some paint to do my floor and the fellow tells me all I have to do is wash the floor (currently 30 year old oil base in good condition, no flaking) ) with TSP. This would clean and etch the paint so I would only need one coat of a latex floor/porch paint. I didn't think latex could go on oil based paints? Would washing in TSP really etch paint? Would latex really stand up as a floor paint?
Thanks for your help.

You might have better luck posting this in the paint forum.

polarzak 12-23-2011 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rusty baker (Post 800347)
You might have better luck posting this in the paint forum.

Good idea. Thanks.

Jay 78 12-23-2011 07:48 AM

Allow me to play devil's advocate for a moment....

The finished area of my basement had peel and stick tiles when I moved in. They look and stick fine. I tiled the concrete around my laundry area, they look and stick fine. I tiled over the old and ugly ceramic tile in my foyer area inside the front door, those look and stick fine, too.

I have noticed that some of the extremely cheap tiles have a finish that wears quickly, and hardly enough glue for proper adhesion, while some of the more 'expensive' tiles (they're still cheap, any way you look at it) are better in both these areas.

Considering that this is for a workshop area and not a place where you're going to be hosting parties or subjecting the tile to heavy day-to-day foot traffic, I think you can do it with success.

With that said (and before the pros rip me a new one), the cheap/easy way to do things is almost never the best way to do things.

polarzak 12-23-2011 02:13 PM

Jay 78...thank for you for your input. I have being doing my research, and there are a lot of people who have had success with peel and stick on basement floors. And, some, not so much success. I think I would be fine because the place is dry, and since the area is not too big, I would buy the more expensive tiles, and they "should be" alright.
That said, I am considering painting, as that is all I really need, and it would be much, much less expensive. Now I am in the paint forums finding out if I can paint latex over oil. Think either option - tile or paint - success depends on preparation.
I certainly don't think anyone will rip you a new one...you are just fine with the one you have.:laughing:
Thanks.


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