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Old 04-03-2011, 03:06 PM   #1
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Typical one thing after another... never getting a break anywhere!
Well, a tiny one in that I have not found any giant holes in the plaster under the lovely 70's crap paneling (yet)
To the point... I have hardwood under the carpet. I have planned all along to go back to the hardwood because I have parrots and they don't mix with carpet. In the bedrooms, not only is finish worn badly, but also it looks like some water stains.
In the living room, I somehow thought the floor under the carpet was in much better shape- the parts I could see looked pretty good. Today I just had to see so I started ripping the carpet off. Joy joy, the staples in the pad. Then I spot an area (carpet not all off yet, but appears to be isolated to an area of about 4' diameter) where there something is wrong.
In the gaps between the boards, there are spots that are causing the wood to decay. I can only guess it might be rusty nail heads?


The second pic is real close up.
If my hunch is right, how does one fix this? Will refinishing stop the damage? If not, how do I fix this?
And can anyone tell me what kind of wood this is? I think it is hard pine... but I really don't know. The house was built around 1880.
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Could be rot, but you might want to ask in the pest forum, cause it could be termites.

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You can just sand the floors and call the dark spots," character" or you can replace the effected flooring. If it's an older floor, the match might not be to your liking. Minor differences can be stained to blend the new boards in by an experienced flooring guy.
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Could be rot, but you might want to ask in the pest forum, cause it could be termites.
I know it is not termites, I had it inspected and there was no sign whatsoever.
I don't know of any other pests but I'm not ruling it out. It looks rusty though, so until I'm corrected I have to think rusty nail heads.
I was real glad to hear no termites. Unusual for a house that old to not have signs of past problems
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You can just sand the floors and call the dark spots," character" or you can replace the effected flooring. If it's an older floor, the match might not be to your liking. Minor differences can be stained to blend the new boards in by an experienced flooring guy.
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I like the character and don't mind a bit. I'm not so much worried about the spots or how it will look, I'm worried about if once re-done, it will continue to degrade and mess up the finish.
HA! no replacing the boards! It's pushing it for me to even sand and restore. I dread it so much I've considered every possible option except carpet!
It needs a little character anyway. I can't justify laminate when there is hardwood already, but it's tempting!
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I like the character and don't mind a bit. I'm not so much worried about the spots or how it will look, I'm worried about if once re-done, it will continue to degrade and mess up the finish.
HA! no replacing the boards! It's pushing it for me to even sand and restore. I dread it so much I've considered every possible option except carpet!
It needs a little character anyway. I can't justify laminate when there is hardwood already, but it's tempting!
You need to know what it is. If it's rusty nails, you can set them below the floor and fill the hole.
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x2 what Ron said

I think that looks like Douglas Fir from your pictures....
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Yes I do. I think that's what it is, but I can't find any info to confirm.
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Call the floor refinishing guy...he'll tell you real quick......

You ARE going to have a professional refinish the floors ...right???.....right?
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x2 what Ron said

I think that looks like Douglas Fir from your pictures....
It looks like you might be right. I checked out google images, it looks pretty close. It's a bit tough to tell in its current condition, I'm sure. I have no clue how to ID wood other than basic ID like pine from walnut. Just curious what I am working with and probably help to know!
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Lisa, Professional floor finishers are ,likely,cheaper than you think.

In my area about $2.00 a square foot--sanded and finished----your area may be a bit cheaper.

That's not much more than doing it your self----with better results!

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Lisa, Professional floor finishers are ,likely,cheaper than you think.

In my area about $2.00 a square foot--sanded and finished----your area may be a bit cheaper.

That's not much more than doing it your self----with better results!

Just a thought----Mike----
I don't think I have seen any that inexpensive, but I will ask around. Even at that rate, I'm looking at 1300.00. I sure think I could do it cheaper. Perhaps unlikely I could do it as well as a pro, but then you never know. I decided to tile a large kitchen and had never done it and it was beautiful.
I really want to do everything myself if at all possible. I used to be a tool and die maker and I also have quite a lot of construction experience. Probably just enough to be dangerous, I know!
I think I have to give it a go. The worst thing that can happen isn't the end of the world, and I really just want the experience and the satisfaction.
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Call the floor refinishing guy...he'll tell you real quick......

You ARE going to have a professional refinish the floors ...right???.....right?
Nope, I'm going for it!
This is a DIY forum, huh? Everyone who knows me who has done this says I can do it, so I think I can.
I know I need to figure out for sure what that is- that's why I'm asking. I think I already know.
If I fail, well at least I tried. Move to plan b from there. I've made plenty of mistakes but always learn from them.
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Got it Lisa

Good attitude. You'll do fine.

Post some pics, please.

And let us know if we can give you any 'armchair quarterback' advice......
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Nope, I'm going for it!
This is a DIY forum, huh? Everyone who knows me who has done this says I can do it, so I think I can.
I know I need to figure out for sure what that is- that's why I'm asking. I think I already know.
If I fail, well at least I tried. Move to plan b from there. I've made plenty of mistakes but always learn from them.
They have sanding machines that are geared to the homeowner. They're like large orbital sanders, but minimize the damage you could do with one of the large belt sanders the pro's use.
You're local tool rental place should have one.
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