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Old 02-09-2006, 09:30 AM   #46
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The floor was removed from the area between the bathtub and the vainty (the toilet is in between the two). When I started this project, I didn't really have plans to take the tub out, but I changed my mind once I got into it more. It would have been so much easier to try and remove the tub if there was an actual floor to stand on!

Thanks for the info on floor thickness when it comes to tiling - I didn't know that I would need more than one inch floor base. I do plan on tiling. I was eventually going to replace the doors & trim anyhow, so I might as well do it at the same time. I recently saw a show where someone had pergo/laminate floors in her basement bathroom but they had to be ripped out for a couple of reasons...one being that the installer didn't leave enough space for expansion. The other, they said (I think), is because pergo/laminate floors shouldn't be installed in bathrooms due to the moisture factor. (Holmes on Homes - I love that show!)

Here's a picture of the floor before the bathtub was removed. It's probably hard to see in the photo, but there is a section of the top layer that's cut out above the subfloor. It extends about 10".

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Old 02-10-2006, 09:44 PM   #47
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Here's a vinyl window in a shower with Redgard used for waterproofing around it, forgot I had this.
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Old 02-11-2006, 08:48 PM   #48
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Old 02-17-2006, 03:19 PM   #49
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Hi all - yet another question...do you know what type of places will take my old steel tub? Would it be a recycling place or would a scrap metal place take it?

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Scrap metal dealer. Weigh in. Weigh out. They might pay you a little bit per pound.
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Old 02-17-2006, 04:00 PM   #51
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THANKS! Do you happen to know if scrap metal places are generally drop-off places or can I arrange for someone to pick it up? I was going to have a recycling place pick it up today, but I would have to pay them 30 bucks...and besides, the temperature is 5 below zero today with windchill of 30 below -- I didn't know if it would freeze to the ground overnight, lol! (DANG IT'S COLD!)

I purchased 2x4's and plywood the other day and hope to start working on the subfloor this weekend. I actually have the whole weekend off!

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I place mine out by the curb on garbage day, when I return home from work, it's gone.:D

You'll probably pay more for gas to get to a scrap yard, then what you will get for it.
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Leah,

Thanks so much for sharing and for everyone's replies. I just purchased my first home in April 2005, I too am a self proclaimed girly-girl and because of my 15 year old "fixer-upper" have become a home improvement warrior too. I just finished remodeling my half bathroom downstairs in which I patched huge holes in the drywall, ripped up vinyl flooring and self installed ceramic tile and replaced everything. Surprisingly, I found it really easy to install ceramic tile and it looks awesome, so I'd reccomend you'd try installing tile in your bathroom if thats what you what. I mean I'm impressed by what you've done so far, tiling should be a breeze!

Now that I have finished the half bath I am working on remodeling the master/full bath. When I purchased the house I knew that there was a soft spot in the floor between the toliet and the shower. The water damage came from the shower water dripping on the floor for 15 years. However I was horrified when I ripped a small section of 2 layers of vinyl flooring to find the floor underneath rotten all the way to the joists! When I ripped up the last layer of vinyl, the rotten plywood came up in along with it (in many flaky pieces) and I can see the pipes and everything. Here's the scary part, the rot continues a small portion underneath the corner of the tub! I have recieved a couple of different opinions on the subject, some saying no matter how little the subfloor damage extends under the tub that I will need to rip out the entire tub to replace all the subfloor. Others say that if it's just a small patch that I would not need to rip out the tub to repair the small bit. I would rather not rip out the tub, as this is the only full bath that I have in the house and being a girly-girl would not take to going without a shower for too long.

I can post some pictures of the damage if it would help.

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Can you get to the damaged area from below and see how bad it is?, if just a small area, it will dry out, but you will have to rip up everything that was affected where the new tile is going, by installing new plywood, are you tiling the tub surround walls as well?, it can be done while still being able to use it.
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Hi Jamie - thanks for posting! I am hearing more & more horror stories about rotten floors in bathrooms. Luckily, I have a shower in the downstairs bathroom.

I wish there were classes for this kind of thing. The Home Depot just doesn't have classes that are this in-depth, and I don't exactly want to take carpentry classes at a tech school (or wherever)! Dang, I am thankful for the internet and all of the advice people on this site have offered. At the beginning of all this I had no clue about any type of home repair. My first "improvement" last September was changing the flush handle of a toilet, and look at how far I have come! I imagine that you are finding yourself in a similar situation. I started out with just wanting to replace the floor around the toilet, but decided that I might as well keep going as long as things were already being torn up.

I'd love to see your pictures if you wouldn't mind posting them. Also, how about pics of the tile? I have fun looking at different tile places on the weekend. I will also be replacing tile on the entryway landing (split entry style house), downstairs bathroom (eventually), and also the tile around a woodstove on the lower level. I think I will go through shopping withdrawl once I decided on the actual tile for all of these places!

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You guys are awesome. I am in the middle of the same project. Mine is a bedroom bath. I decided to change the shower from a 36X36 to a 34X60.

I am tackling the floor today. I have it all cut out, next step is to fasten my 2X4's to the joists.

Thank you, thank you, thank you!! You guys are great for sharing your know-how!!

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One of these days I will work less so I can get back to this project!

My next question is about adding the supporting 2x4's to the joists. The area in question is behind the toilet:

One of the joists that I need to work with is not exactly in the bathroom, it's underneath the room behind the bathroom (kitchen). It might be easiest to take a look at the pictures I am attaching. Hopefully you'll know what I mean. How do I get the support 2x4's in this area? Other advice is welcomed and appreciated since I have never done this before.

This may not make any sense, let me know if it doesn't and I'll try to explain it better!

THANKS!

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Leah, how far back is the joist (under the wall) from the face of the wall? Less than an inch? more than an inch?
And can you get a current close-up photo of the area now that the tub is in the dumpster?
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Thanks for the reply. The joist is well more than an inch under that wall...I am at work so I can't say for sure, but I am guessing it's
4-6". I will get a better measurement tonight when I get home, and an updated photo.

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