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Old 10-27-2013, 11:53 AM   #1
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Closed on our new home back in the end of June. Live in Massachusetts. It's now October and I've noticed some buckling/cupping in the floor. I need some opinions on whether this is expected or if it's something worth mentioning to the builder. Have a look at these pics and let me know. Thanks.
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I may not be seeing it so well, but I don't see any cupping or buckling of any individual boards. The floor does not seem to be flat, and it seems to be out of level, but that would be more a function of the subfloor not being flat, which may trace to the joists not being level across the tops.

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I may not be seeing it so well, but I don't see any cupping or buckling of any individual boards. The floor does not seem to be flat, and it seems to be out of level, but that would be more a function of the subfloor not being flat, which may trace to the joists not being level across the tops.
Thanks for the feedback. That picture was intended to display an obvious high point in the floor. I'm not sure how to document the buckling/cupping/waviness to the floor. When you run your foot/hand along the floor you can certainly feel the waviness.
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Confirm this is new construction?

Is the floor slab or do you have a crawl space or basement?

Do you feel the floor giving when you step on it?
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Confirm this is new construction?

Is the floor slab or do you have a crawl space or basement?

Do you feel the floor giving when you step on it?
Yes it's new construction.

There is a basement.

The floor does not feel to give when you step on it.
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Well....since you have a basement, then you have access.....

I would let it be for awhile....it could be as simple as a floor joist warping a little....you should be able to see it from the basement....assuming the basement is not finished.

Hopefully some of the experts will chime in.
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Well....since you have a basement, then you have access.....

I would let it be for awhile....it could be as simple as a floor joist warping a little....you should be able to see it from the basement....assuming the basement is not finished.

Hopefully some of the experts will chime in.
While the unlevelness of the picture above is concerning, my primary worry is that the floor maintains a slight waviness throughout the house. It seems like there is a peak everywhere two boards run parallel with each other.
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How about some pictures of the joist from the basement.
I'd be down there pulling some strings to see what's off.
If the boards are really cupping then there's a moisture issue.
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It may have been that way from the beginning. But I do not see any buckling or cupping of the flooring laid in those photos. Most likely the home has settled since the foundation was poured, and has been slopped in that direction since they framed the place, but never placed a level or laser level, to make sure the home framing for the main floor was level across the grid.

Sad thing is, when they built the home, they had to compensate the home being off square and slopping in that direction, by using some magic, which in turn is not going to last very long.

Went to a friends party last night, and their home is not even a year old, and there is so much wrong with it. The contractors these days just do not care. Most of them do not have the time in building homes like they did back in the day, or want to take the time, to make sure it looks good enough, to not have to go back and fix things that they shorted on during the build.
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How many times have any of us that do this stuff all the time walk into someone else's home and looked around and see all the stuff done wrong?
I hate it when they invite me over to see a new room they just "remodeled".
A 12" piece of chair railing between two doors off by 1/2".
1/4" gaps in the corners of the casing.
Baseboard with 90 deg. butt cuts and 45 deg. inside corners.
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How about some pictures of the joist from the basement.
I'd be down there pulling some strings to see what's off.
If the boards are really cupping then there's a moisture issue.
What should I be looking for in the basement?
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How about some pictures of the joist from the basement.
I'd be down there pulling some strings to see what's off.
If the boards are really cupping then there's a moisture issue.
Also, would they be other signs of what the moisture issue could be?
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How many times have any of us that do this stuff all the time walk into someone else's home and looked around and see all the stuff done wrong?
I hate it when they invite me over to see a new room they just "remodeled".
A 12" piece of chair railing between two doors off by 1/2".
1/4" gaps in the corners of the casing.
Baseboard with 90 deg. butt cuts and 45 deg. inside corners.
You left out handrails where they make a corner coming down the stairs that you end up with a pinch point (They did that at my Brother-in-Law's, that they did not bring the handrail out far enough, that as you are coming down the stairs, your hand gets pinched at a corner, towards the middle of the stairwell).

The house we were at last night, they did not take the time to sand the railing down after routing in the bevels or curves, so you would come across rough spots all along the railing as you went down or up. Barely or no Poly at all on the railing.

Bathroom piping in a cold wall, that should never have been done. They even stated that they are going to hate if the lines freeze in that wall, since they know there is some poor insulation. The same contractor is in the process of building the same style a couple doors down, and it is one of those build in four months, and not our problem after we release to the buyer, type of deals, which is normal in this town.
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It seems like there is a peak everywhere two boards run parallel with each other.
Curious what you mean by this statement.

What size are the floor joists? Pics from below?
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Very few hardwood floors are perfectly flat. They respond to changes in the environment.

It's also been very dry this October - I'm in MA too. If anything, the boards should be shrinking and gaps opening - especially if you have the heat on.

What is the humidity level in the house? Are you running a humidifier?

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