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Old 11-01-2010, 04:11 PM   #1
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I am trying to figure out if the floor in my bathroom is the type of vinyl that had asbestos in the backing. The house was built in 1958. 4 years ago when we moved in we tore out all the carpet. In the bathroom under the carpet was this sheet flooring that does not quite look like the vinyl floors I am used to.

I am used to the stuff with a gray/white backing with a thin plastic layer on top with the color and pattern in it. The stuff in my bathroom is very hard and brittle the pattern appears to go all the way through it and the backing is brown paper. I covered most of the floor with self stick cheapo vinyl tiles because this original floor was starting to flake and crack due to the tub leaking and damaging the particle board underlayment. In the photo you can see where one of the nails holding the tack strip for the carpet came out.

I am trying to figure out if this is inlaid vinyl flooring or true linoleum and if it is one of those how likely is it to contain asbestos?

I never even knew asbestos was used in flooring until a couple weeks ago when I started researching asbestos because of what I found in my attic. Luckily that came back negative for asbestos.
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Old 11-01-2010, 04:30 PM   #2
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Typically (and I mean typically) asbestos is found in flooring tiles that are 9"x9" which are more like Vinyl Composite Tiles of today(whic are 12x12) (they are much more rigid than sheet products. I have never heard of sheet goods containing asbestos before. If you are really nervous about it then get it tested along with the adhesive. Find a local lab or testing agency and have them test it. My bet is you could get it done pretty cheap to be honest.

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Testing it is the best bet. Yes, some sheet vinyl had asbestos as well as some adhesives. There were 12x12 tiles made for years which contained asbestos. http://www.asbestosresource.com/asbestos/tile.html

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theres no way to be certain unless you test. i am thinking of doing the same with my ceiling tiles. google emsl. they are a legit lab with various locations
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Thanks for the replies. Before I gut that bathroom I will be sure to get it tested. For now I think I will get some cheapo mistint paint and coat every bit that is exposed around the back of the toilet and under the counter just to be sure.

Sad thing is we had that exact same sheet flooring in our first house. My wife and I spent a couple days tearing it out of all the rooms. We had no idea it could be hazardous. The only good thing about it is we had not had kids yet.
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I wouldn't worry about it. The danger from asbestos in flooring was overblown. Asbestos in duct insulation and things like that were far worse. I took it up for years, before I knew about the asbestos and have had no lung problems. You have to create a lot of dust for there to be much danger.
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I wouldn't worry about it. The danger from asbestos in flooring was overblown. Asbestos in duct insulation and things like that were far worse. I took it up for years, before I knew about the asbestos and have had no lung problems. You have to create a lot of dust for there to be much danger.
+1 and if you wet it down its even better. Me personally I would rip it up and not think twice about it but hey thats me.
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All this makes me feel better and what my dad told me also makes me feel a lot better.

He said when he was 7 or 8 Grandma got a new furnace and when the guys tore the old octopus furnace out the whole house was covered in a layer of fine white dust. She made my dad spend hours in the basement with a broom, vacuum, and garbage can. He said it was like white flaky cardboard and very dusty.
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All this makes me feel better and what my dad told me also makes me feel a lot better.

He said when he was 7 or 8 Grandma got a new furnace and when the guys tore the old octopus furnace out the whole house was covered in a layer of fine white dust. She made my dad spend hours in the basement with a broom, vacuum, and garbage can. He said it was like white flaky cardboard and very dusty.
Asbestos comes in many colors, shapes and sizes so dont assume its all white and dusty.
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I am trying to figure out if the floor in my bathroom is the type of vinyl that had asbestos in the backing. The house was built in 1958. 4 years ago when we moved in we tore out all the carpet. In the bathroom under the carpet was this sheet flooring that does not quite look like the vinyl floors I am used to.

I am used to the stuff with a gray/white backing with a thin plastic layer on top with the color and pattern in it. The stuff in my bathroom is very hard and brittle the pattern appears to go all the way through it and the backing is brown paper. I covered most of the floor with self stick cheapo vinyl tiles because this original floor was starting to flake and crack due to the tub leaking and damaging the particle board underlayment. In the photo you can see where one of the nails holding the tack strip for the carpet came out.

I am trying to figure out if this is inlaid vinyl flooring or true linoleum and if it is one of those how likely is it to contain asbestos?

I never even knew asbestos was used in flooring until a couple weeks ago when I started researching asbestos because of what I found in my attic. Luckily that came back negative for asbestos.
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Linolium tiles are not considered friable by the epa. You can tear up all day throw them around like frisbees you will be fine. Do not sand or grind. There is a removal limit per day per person and so many pound can be thrown right in you trash but you will have to look for that exact numbers because i forgot. The glue for lino tiles also contains asbestos its called cutback.

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