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Old 04-27-2012, 11:52 AM   #1
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"Creak" is actually closer to the sound. On the 2nd floor of my house there are several spots that cause noises. Most just cause localized sounds but if I hit just the right spot in a couple of locations, it can produce a loud crack that sounds like it's coming from a different part of the house.

Anyway, I bought a kit to try to fix the problem myself. The problem is, I couldn't find the joists! I finally decided to pull up a corner of carpet and use a good studfinder. It couldn't find a joist either. I moved it slowly in several directions at least 3 ft. Nothing.

So, pointers would be useful. Also, I am willing to pay a floor expert to do this for me so some pointers on finding someone who is willing and able would also help. I live in Greensboro NC in case someone willing and able sees this.

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When you pulled up the carpet, did you see any fasteners? Nails or screws? Nails are some times hard to see as they can be buried in the wood. When you find the fasteners, you can determine how far apart the joists are and what direction they run.

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Old 04-27-2012, 12:08 PM   #3
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Remove the carpet, install ceramic coated 2-1/4" decking screws every 6 to
8" in the joist.
I use a cordless 18 volt impact driver to drive the screws.
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When you pulled up the carpet, did you see any fasteners? Nails or screws? Nails are some times hard to see as they can be buried in the wood. When you find the fasteners, you can determine how far apart the joists are and what direction they run.

I did not see any nails although I wasn't specifically looking for buried nails at the time. I'm very curious why I was not able to find studs with the studfinder? Is there some different kind of floor design that I have? I tested the finder on the wall to make sure it works.

I even tried drilling in 1" increments and sticking a cut piece of coathanger, which I used to drill, in each hole. I did this in opposite directions for 3ft so I had a big plus sign of coathanger pieces sticking out of the floor. None of them met with enough resistance to indicate hitting a stud. I tried randomly drilling holes on 2 occasions, drilling maybe 30 holes. I'm convinced I have a floor with no studs. That's why I am also hoping for advice on finding a professional for this type of thing.

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No one here is going to be able to tell you how your home was buillt.
Is there a crawl space, basement, or is this on a slab.
Just look where the seams are in the plywood to find a referance point.
Any other fastners should be 16" or 24" from there.
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No one here is going to be able to tell you how your home was buillt.
Is there a crawl space, basement, or is this on a slab.
Just look where the seams are in the plywood to find a referance point.
Any other fastners should be 16" or 24" from there.
It is on a slab and the problem is on the 2nd level. Thanks.
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There should be floor joist on the second floor.
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stud finders find studs beased on thickness - anything more than a set thickness will cause the stud finder to beep. Generally they sense anything thru 1/2" to 3/4 "thickness, and if your subfloor is thicker than that, a stud finder will be useless.
Remove the carpet, look for seams - joints or even nail heads or screw heads. Look for more nails/screws in any direction and find a pattern. There should be nails going along the joist to fix the subfloor.

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