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Old 05-06-2012, 10:22 PM   #1
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I need an idea for something I don't think comes up very often (or if it does, consider me lucky!)

I have a dining room that steps up about 10 inches to my living room, through a large opening in a wall. I also step up to the entrance from the dining room, along the same wall.

Where it steps up, there is a nose that matches the flooring in the living room and is the right height. Where the nose is placed is on a continuous piece of wood that runs right across from the living room opening, in front of the entrance opening, wall to wall.

However, the flooring in the entrance will not be at the same height, so the same nose cannot be used.

So, my question is:

What is a way I can terminate one nose and continue on with another, along the same line?

I can terminate it on both sides of the entrance opening, so it looks congruent.

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http://i49.tinypic.com/i4jswk.png

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Old 05-06-2012, 10:31 PM   #2
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Judging by just that one picture you have a real mees there.
Looks like someone just keep adding more subflooring instead of doing it right and removing the old time and time and time again.
Google "landing tread" and see if one of them will work.

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Old 05-06-2012, 10:42 PM   #3
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The house was a definite mess... and I've probably added few mistakes here and there (not on purpose!). You are right in that they just kept adding flooring to the entrance. I will be scraping that all off, down to the concrete pad underneath, then re-tiling the entrance (with help). As I mentioned, the tile will not come out to the same height as the flooring in the adjacent living room, so the nose can't be continued through.

I now see what a landing tread is. How would I transition from the nose to the landing tread?

Here is another rough drawing to help. http://i45.tinypic.com/ighvuo.jpg

Thanks for your help!

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Old 05-07-2012, 09:31 AM   #4
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What is the difference in heights between the living room and entrance when both floors are finished.
Will the floor surface of the entrance be lower or higher than the living room? What is the finish of the floor in the both upper area's.

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It will likely be about 1/4" lower (I have to scrape off the layers first).

There will be tile in the entrance and laminate in the living room.
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If the entrance is likely to be 1/4" lower than the living room, you could consider using a thicker floor tile. If this is not an option the floor can be built up by 1/4" with self leveling cement made for this purpose. This small thickness should be easy to feather out prior to the tile being laid.

As an alternative [if the difference works out to be more than 1/4"], a step can be created to project into the lower flooring area by about 2 1/2". This would be finished in the same material as the entrance floor. I am sure there will be complementary bullnose tiles for this purpose.
The wood trim bullnose can be terminated at both sides of the entrance and a return bullnose cut into the end of the trim to finish it off.

With there being two different materials used, it will not be cause for attention.

Hope this works out...........floors are never level anyway

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Thank you much for your time!

I will see if those options work out.

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