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Old 07-17-2009, 02:03 PM   #1
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laying floor then plastering walls


We are remodelling the kitchen. Are down to bare brick on walls and am awaiting the electrician before we re-plaster.

Floor is concrete and we are about to ceramic tile it.

Question is can we tile floor first so that we aren't wasting time, and then plaster the walls once the electrics are in. None of the electrics are being done through the floor so no chance we would be having to take up flooring again.

And if we can do that what is the best way of doing it.

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Old 07-17-2009, 02:37 PM   #2
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You can but there is a chance of getting it damaged while other work is going on. All it takes is someone to drop a drill on it and you have a chipped or cracked tile. Also you will have lots of fun cleaning the plaster out of the grout lines if you don't cover and protect the floor.

Check your floor for levelness and fill low spots with self leveling concrete. Prime the floor with adhesive primer and allow to dry per instructions. Then you have to decide how you want to lay out the floor. The type of installation (diamond, straight, borders, staggered, inlay designs, patterns) will affect the way you lay out your grid.

Typically you find the center of the room get your center line and use that as a base line and transfer as necessary depending on the type of installation. Find your center line by snapping a line from corner to corner then measure the sides and mark the center of each side of the room. This will give you three reference points from which to snap your center line. It also gives you reference for dead center if you want to start from the center of the room and lay outward.

Once you have determined that you are ready to start laying tile. I use a 1/4" x 1/4" notch trowel for tiles 6" up to 15". 1/2" x 1/2" for tiles over that. Mix you thin set with admix and use fortified thin set mortar. Use the smooth side of the trowel and spread the mortar on the floor or the tile. I prefer the floor but everybody has there preferences. If your working on a wall it is usually better to apply it to the tile. Then pull back through the mortar with the notched side of the trowel. Lay the tile down and smack it lightly with your hand. This will cause a slight suction (this is why the trowel is notched) and keep the tile from lifting up easily. Make sure you leave 1/4" off the wall around the perimeter of the room.

When you make your cuts use a rubbing stone to smooth the edges. If you use spacers do not stick them into the thinset. If you get thinset on the tile you can wipe it off with a damp sponge. Let the thinset set up for 24 hours before grouting. Remove the spacers before grouting.

Mix your grout to a consistancy a little bit looser than peanut butter. Use distilled water or addmix or a combination there of. Do not use well water under any circumstances. Use a float at a 30 degree angle and and work the grout into the grooves. Do a small section at a time and wipe with a sponge as it hazes up on the tile. Make sure to get it all off and that the tile is clean before proceeding to the next section. I also like to use the sponge to "dress up" any grout lines that need it. If the tiles are pourus you will want to seal them before grouting or use a grout bag (tedious).

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