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mavrick1100 01-05-2011 04:04 PM

laminate flooring on ceiling
 
Hi All, I am looking for anyone who has installed laminate flooring on a ceiling. I found Armstrong Laminate Ceiling Planks, but it is very expensive. I have 1000+ sq ft to cover on a cathedral ceiling. I found a contractor on the sister site, Contractor Talk, but cannot contact the contractor to inquire how he performed this.

Anyone with ideas, suggestions, pitfalls, howto's, would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you, Paul

cocobolo 01-05-2011 05:00 PM

Paul:

When laminate flooring is installed, it normally sits on a floating membrane. It needs to do this because it moves. This, in itself, makes laminate FLOORING most unsuited for a ceiling application.

The Armstrong products for ceilings are another kettle of fish entirely. They are used routinely in huge commercial installations and have been proven over many years.

KCB 01-05-2011 05:26 PM

frankly i dont see how you can walk on the cieling ? :whistling2:Is your house upside down ??:eek:

stary kozel 01-08-2011 04:52 PM

I did walls using laminate; used screws which I covered with base and rail molding. Works OK for some 3 - 4 years now; walls are more stable regarding temp. and humidity than floors.

Ceiling is more challenging because of large area to be covered. I would use something like grid made from moldings that would hold the squares or rectangles of the FLOATING! laminate.

You would have to find the anchor points into which fasten the moldings, and do your lay-out on paper. You could get fancy and use 2 colors, like checker board or change directions, etc.

The process would be using drywall lift with platform on to of it; you would pre-assemble the laminate sections, lift them up, align, and the install the molding to hold the the laminate. The grid molding assembly would have to be made from 3 molding members : two "L" shapes back to back (this would make something like "T") and one piece to cover the seam between the "L"s.

I never seen anything like this yet, but the concept should be feasible.

Thinking about it some more:
You could also use the "T" shaped parting strip that is sold with the laminate. Then you would use screws and do not tighten them, so the "T" is loose - this would help you to get your pre-assembled laminate rectangle under the "arms" of the "T". Counter-bore the holes and, after final tightening of the screws, cover then with wooden plugs.

BigJim 01-08-2011 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stary kozel (Post 565674)
I did walls using laminate; used screws which I covered with base and rail molding. Works OK for some 3 - 4 years now; walls are more stable regarding temp. and humidity than floors.

Ceiling is more challenging because of large area to be covered. I would use something like grid made from moldings that would hold the squares or rectangles of the FLOATING! laminate.

You would have to find the anchor points into which fasten the moldings, and do your lay-out on paper. You could get fancy and use 2 colors, like checker board or change directions, etc.

The process would be using drywall lift with platform on to of it; you would pre-assemble the laminate sections, lift them up, align, and the install the molding to hold the the laminate. The grid molding assembly would have to be made from 3 molding members : two "L" shapes back to back (this would make something like "T") and one piece to cover the seam between the "L"s.

I never seen anything like this yet, but the concept should be feasible.

Thinking about it some more:
You could also use the "T" shaped parting strip that is sold with the laminate. Then you would use screws and do not tighten them, so the "T" is loose - this would help you to get your pre-assembled laminate rectangle under the "arms" of the "T". Counter-bore the holes and, after final tightening of the screws, cover then with wooden plugs.

If the laminate isn't made for the ceiling, I would be afraid it would sag especially with all the heat that stays at the ceiling.

woodman58 01-09-2011 08:20 AM

The vidio of armstrongs web site is very informative.

http://www.armstrong.com/resclgam/na...stallation.asp

vjnewton48@yaho 02-16-2012 09:15 PM

Just me
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mavrick1100 (Post 563513)
Hi All, I am looking for anyone who has installed laminate flooring on a ceiling. I found Armstrong Laminate Ceiling Planks, but it is very expensive. I have 1000+ sq ft to cover on a cathedral ceiling. I found a contractor on the sister site, Contractor Talk, but cannot contact the contractor to inquire how he performed this.

Anyone with ideas, suggestions, pitfalls, howto's, would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you, Paul

Hello
I put oak laminated flooring that is used for Floating floors on my ceiling, walls, and basement floor.....I used black tar paper under the floaring floor......Looks great and works well........I dont know of anyone else that has done this........You dont know if it will work unless you do it...
VJ:thumbup:

JetSwet 02-16-2012 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vjnewton48@yaho

Hello
I put oak laminated flooring that is used for Floating floors on my ceiling, walls, and basement floor.....I used black tar paper under the floaring floor......Looks great and works well........I dont know of anyone else that has done this........You dont know if it will work unless you do it...
VJ:thumbup:

How did u manage to get the pieces to hold to the walls ceiling this is about the silliest thing I have heard?!?!?.....crazy if u will lol post pictures!

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Cgator 07-20-2014 02:18 PM

laminate placed on the ceiling.
 
I have seen this process of using laminate on the ceiling too. HGtv used clips made by Armstrong. does anyone know where to get these.???:huh:

joecaption 07-20-2014 04:46 PM

Why would anyone even think about doing it with laminate?
Makes 0 since to me.
Real wood prefinished T & G would be the way to go.
No way would I want a shiny plastic looking material on a ceiling.
Way to many seams.
It needs to float. ECT, ECT.

Cgator 07-20-2014 07:26 PM

we'll I guess you have no imagination and never think out of the box. If your weren't going to be informative you should keep your opinions to your self.:furious::boxing:



Quote:

Originally Posted by joecaption (Post 1378160)
Why would anyone even think about doing it with laminate?
Makes 0 since to me.
Real wood prefinished T & G would be the way to go.
No way would I want a shiny plastic looking material on a ceiling.
Way to many seams.
It needs to float. ECT, ECT.


rusty baker 07-20-2014 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cgator (Post 1378232)
we'll I guess you have no imagination and never think out of the box. If your weren't going to be informative you should keep your opinions to your self.:furious::boxing:

And people wonder why pros hesitate to help on these forums. I know a little about using it after being in the business for 41 years, but I won't help anyone with a bad attitude. Good luck.

AllanJ 07-21-2014 11:21 AM

The difficulty with laminate flooring on the ceiling is holding it in place. The material is heavy enough that you need lots of fasteners, and it may also expand and contract differently compared with the building structure so the fasteners have to allow some side to side give.

You do not want nails or screws right through the middles of the planks because it is almost impossible to refinish the surface of laminate.

You might use brads in the tongues and grooves but this may make it more difficult to insert each succeeding plank.

You do not need tar paper or underlayment or membrane over and above what other kinds of ceiling finishing materials might need for moisture barrier, etc.

mnp13 07-21-2014 03:29 PM

Laminate on a ceiling? I have to agree with the others - why on earth would you do that? I've seen wood ceilings that look great, but it was real wood not fake.

Quote:

we'll I guess you have no imagination and never think out of the box.
No one has ever made this comment to me in my entire life, and I happen to agree with the person that you are being rude to. What you are planning is going to be very difficult to accomplish and you are planning to use a material that is completely unsuited for the task. If you want to make yourself crazy, go for it.

I looked around online for pictures of one done with laminate, and the only ones that looked ok (in my opinion) were coffered so that the seams didn't show.


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