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Old 09-12-2008, 11:04 PM   #61
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Yes, Jamie, thank you ... I have requested the 'prestige' line. Home is attached town home being built by Ryan Homes in Richmond Virginia area. Thus, I am sure they have logistics/supply connections. To date, it has not been a product on Ryan's "approved flooring" list. I declined their selections of polyester/recycled plastic as choices for "environmentally green", researched my alternatives, konecto prestige was recommended, and that is what I have requested. My selection is pending "approval" by Ryan and their contracted flooring company. QUESTION: What is "AO finish" ... aluminum oxide finish?? And what is aluminum oxide?

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Yes, Jamie, thank you ... I have requested the 'prestige' line. Home is attached town home being built by Ryan Homes in Richmond Virginia area. Thus, I am sure they have logistics/supply connections. To date, it has not been a product on Ryan's "approved flooring" list. I declined their selections of polyester/recycled plastic as choices for "environmentally green", researched my alternatives, konecto prestige was recommended, and that is what I have requested. My selection is pending "approval" by Ryan and their contracted flooring company. QUESTION: What is "AO finish" ... aluminum oxide finish?? And what is aluminum oxide?
Excellent, I am glad your working on getting the prestige. Here is some info on AO:

"Aluminum oxide is almost as hard as diamonds and provides unsurpassed wear and stain resistance." - fittinglaminatefloors.com

It is a very compound made from Aluminium that has a very high hardness rating. I don't know the best way to explain how AO is created from a technical standpoint, but what I do know is that it is one of the very best finishes that can be used on many made floors. It ends up being very strong and highly resistant to wear, scuffs, and damage.

I have read a number of reports where people have seen scratches and damage with the non-AO versions of Konecto (Prestige is the only AO finish Konecto- I think the new Patina planks are AO also, but they are about twice the price). I have never read such reports about The prestige with the AO finish. I have 7 dogs running around there right now, most of them are smaller dogs, but they still all ahve claws, they scratch, dig, etc, and the floor is completely unharmed. I have droped tools onto the konecto from 6 feet high, with no damage. I do have A/C grade plywood under almost all of the floor that is secured very very well to the sub floor and the joists, so there is not much give to the surface below. Anyway, I am very impressed with how strong it is.

I am not sure how he could approve of the lower version of Konecto and not the Prestige, as the Prestige has been there best line in general, with the highest / longest warranty. (10 commercial / 25 residential)

I hope this helps.

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Again Jamie ... I am MOST appreciative!! Thanks for explanation about AO and the great wear factor. Now I have a concern though.

The reason I declined non-'green' carpet and the plastics/polyesters for flooring is due to toxicity issues ... aluminum being one of the things showing up in my body.

So guess I am back to doing some research.
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Again Jamie ... I am MOST appreciative!! Thanks for explanation about AO and the great wear factor. Now I have a concern though.

The reason I declined non-'green' carpet and the plastics/polyesters for flooring is due to toxicity issues ... aluminum being one of the things showing up in my body.

So guess I am back to doing some research.
As far as I know the AO is bound to the flooring material in processing and I doubt there is any toxicity issue with it. If there is, the exposure would be minimal compared to the aluminum from numerous other sources.

For what it is worth, here is a article that speak about AO and safe flooring for people that have problems with chemical products.

http://www.dld123.com/q&a/index.php?cid=2734

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what on earth going on here.... is this English....
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I do mostly carpet, but have used Konecto twice. It did not hold up well the first time - it was in a small commercial space, and I was told to float it. The next time, I floated it as well, but had it snug up to the walls - and it is spot on still in a lesser trafficked area. The first time the seams grew to gaps. I would find a way to lock it in place a bit better than a typical float.
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Thanks again Jamie. Guess it is time for me to move to a new thread/subject. Again I am MOST appreciative for Debra L Dadd, www.dld123.com, info. And will continue asserting my desire for konecto prestige.

GENERAL QUESTION REGARDING KONECTO PRESTIGE:
The flooring company that has been contracted with the builder for my new home under construction has said Konecto can not be used on the stairs.
FLOORING PROFESSIONALS - can this product be used on stairs? And if not, then what?
Thanks in advance.
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GENERAL QUESTION REGARDING KONECTO PRESTIGE:
The flooring company that has been contracted with the builder for my new home under construction has said Konecto can not be used on the stairs.
FLOORING PROFESSIONALS - can this product be used on stairs? And if not, then what?
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No you cannot put konecto on steps, (26years AKA Konecto predator) will tell you otherwise. He lays it in his granchildrens cribs it's such a great product!

Laminate treads(junk IMO), carpet, or oak treads are what people put on steps.
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BTW this thread is priceless
You can buy vinyl planks that you can glue down that look and weat the same as KONECTO people

You have an alternative consumers!

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Laminate treads(junk IMO), carpet, or oak treads are what people put on steps.
I agree. I apologize, I meant to respond to your question here sooner.

I have solid oak steps in my living room area, that is right next to my konecto that are the same color as my trim. The steps used to have carpet on them, the upper part of my steps is actually not oak, and when I get the time, I will replaced all the treads and raisers with matching new oak. I plan to stain the oak, then will seal with with something like the minwax floor poly.


If it would help you to see a photo of my steps next to the konecto, let me know and I can take one and upload it anytime.

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If it would help you to see a photo of my steps next to the konecto, let me know and I can take one and upload it anytime.

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I just had to take some photos for a different thread, so I took some photos of the steps for you to see:

Sorry I didn't clean better for you...



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clean the steps up a bit and put a runner on 26 to 30 inch in width
It will distract the contrast greatly and it will be alot more quiet
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clean the steps up a bit and put a runner on 26 to 30 inch in width
It will distract the contrast greatly and it will be alot more quiet
I agree that a runner can be very nice in many situations. I would not mind the look of one at all. As I had mentioned in an eariler message, I plan to put down new treads and raisers so they all look nice. These, as you can see were butchered by the carpet that was installed on them.

For me to keep things clean, I need to be carpet / runner free due to the level of traffic in our home (4 dogs). The only carperts we have are machine washable and get washed every couple days.

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I have installed flooring also for over 25 years. If you are installing a product that has to be rolled and rolled and rolled and the instuctions and warranty don't tell you this, the product, the instructions, and or the warranty are trash. To upgrade to their next line at any cost would not be my suggestion. I would move on. There are to many other good products out there to mess with a bad one. Just my $.02 worth.
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Hi Folks,

Just wanted to add my 2 cents. Hopefully I can add some insight about Konecto. Some of the info here is opinions, which everyone has, and other info is bad information even from people who supposedly sell the product and claim to have special insight.

I am fortunate enough to own a company that has sold over 750,000 square feet of Konecto. I probably have more experience with Konecto that anyone here. Our claim rate is less than 1% on Konecto. We sell all kinds of flooring and there is no product that has a zero claim rate. Our claim rate (people who have issues) on Konecto is very good for our industry and I would hope the industry people here would agree.

Konecto is an excellent product. It can be installed over concrete or plywood, and if you follow the instructions you will have a beautiful floor. The instructions do recommend acclimating the floor and rolling it. In the few instances where customers have had a problem Metroflor has made it right.

I know everyone's experience hasn't been as pleasant as ours and Im sorry. We have thousands of happy Konecto customers from grocery stores to restaurants to homeowners.

That folks is the truth and my 2 cents on Konecto.

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