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Old 05-13-2008, 10:10 PM   #31
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Hi Tracy, Konecto is the only waterproof product I know of top/bottom. We use it to solve moisture problems where other products have failed.

Also great over asbestos to float over it, saves lots of $$$$$

Not only is Konecto waterproof from top to bottom, but so is the glass back Vinyl products as well.

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Old 05-20-2008, 10:04 AM   #32
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Hi,

I did a search on the tile and ran across this thread, which has me worried. We were planning on getting the square tiles to go over our current Armstrong Solarian vinyl sheet in the kitchen. We were told it could just be laid over our existing flooring.

Has anyone used or installed the square tiles? Problems? I'd appreciate any advice. Thanks!
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Old 05-20-2008, 03:31 PM   #33
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This all so weird! We installed 900 sq.ft. of Konecto in our house and have had only one small place where it lifted but it is a place that we had taken back up and reapplied. We absolutely love our floor!!! We didn't install it on a slab though. We installed over plywood or over existing floors. We have a crawl space and live in moderate temp pacific NW. That may be the reason why we have had so much luck. We know several businesses that have used it with success as well. We did not roll it but just pressed firmly with our knees, Opps! We get so many compliments and love the look. I do highly recommend it. It does scratch easily so use pads on furniture.
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Hi,

I did a search on the tile and ran across this thread, which has me worried. We were planning on getting the square tiles to go over our current Armstrong Solarian vinyl sheet in the kitchen. We were told it could just be laid over our existing flooring.

Has anyone used or installed the square tiles? Problems? I'd appreciate any advice. Thanks!
Nancy,
Not to make you nervous, but our sales rep had told us, about 4-5 months ago, that the Konecto Tile product was recalled due to the adhesive not sealing properly. He never said anything about the strip planks, just the tile. And as of today, no one has ever contacted us with samples telling us its ok to sell. I would just be careful with the tile, the planks work great!
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Thanks for the responses!

Janine, I just got home from bringing the samples back to the retailer and told the rep I'm working with about the problems mentioned in the thread. She hadn't heard of any problems. They've had the planks for a long time and very recently got the tiles from the distributor. We live in MN, so I don't know if different parts of the country get different distribution dates, or if maybe they fixed the problem and this is a new batch, or if I just need to try to find something else similar that isn't laminate and doesn't look nastily like a fake stone floor . . .

I started this whole search because I wanted something more resilient than tile that's not wood and something that doesn't clatter like laminate. I'd happily repurchase our current Armstrong Solarian, but it's 15 yrs. old and of course the pattern no longer exists. I may try calling the retailer and give them the link so that they can read the posts and check with Konecto.

Does anyone else who's an installer, retailer, distributor, whatever, have any new info on the tile issue?

Thanks, guys!

Nancy
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I just wanted to clarify that we used the Prestige line of planks. I know Prestige is a little thicker. I have no experience with the tiles.
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I called Konecto directly because since the recall, no sales rep has ever come back to our retail store to promote it. I spoke with a lady in technical support and she did confirm that the issue has been rectified and that the product is now available for all markets. If you need any further information, I reccomend you call them at 866-687-6357. I also looked up the warranty which I've pasted below. It doesn't specify about issues with the glue not sealing properly. To me, that warrants a manufacturing defect, which is covered. I would just be careful. Good Luck!
This warranty covers manufacturing defects, loss of original pattern and color due to staining, fading or wear, when the flooring is subject to normal residential and/or commercial use. This warranty does not include damage caused by fire, conditions arising from hydrostatic pressure, intentional abuse, damage caused by vacuum cleaner beater bar, improper caster wheels, and cutting from sharp objects, or texture differences between samples and delivered product and exterior application. Konecto should not be used to seal an existing floor from
moisture it is a floating floor which is waterproof but Konecto can not inhibit growth of mold, or problems associated with flooding, excessive moisture or alkalis in the sub floor. This warranty shall not include loss due to inconvenience, loss of time, incidental expenses (such as telephone calls, labor and/or materials) incurred in the removal or re-installation of affected material, and any other incidental or consequential damages. Some states do not allow the exclusion or limitation of Incidental or consequential damages so that the above limitation and exclusion may not apply. Your warranty gives you specific legal rights, and you may have other legal rights, which vary, from State to State.
This Warranty applies only to the original purchaser of the KONECTO product, not to any subsequent homeowner and is pro-rated. This warranty is in lieu of any other warranties, expressed or implied. If a defect is found KONECTO will repair the defective area or
replace the floor with similar color, pattern and quality at your option. Please keep your receipt or obtain it from the original purchaser. KONECTO needs the receipt in order to verify date of purchase to help resolve any problems.
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Janine, thanks so much for calling and checking! Your email has been really helpful, and I feel more confident in the product.

If we do wind up getting it, I will be careful and make sure that it gets rolled, and rolled, and rolled! I'll report in to let you all know how it goes.

Thanks again,

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I installed the prestige plank flooring in my basement in January of 2008. There was a chemical smell that was so strong that I bought an expensive air cleaner to attempt to eliminate the odor. Four months later I still have an obnoxious odor in the basement which prevents me from using the space. I assume the smell is from the adhesive. I am wondering if anyone else has had this problem with the konecto flooring and if so, how can I get rid of this odor?
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I used Prestige planks - the heaviest and most expensive. I paid to have it installed. The last installer (they've done it three times to try to get it to stay on my concrete foundation) used huge heavy rollers constantly while putting it down. He painted a sealer (he considers it the best) before laying the planks. It's now been almost a year since starting this project. I'm waiting for a different flooring to be laid. The planks have curled up on the sides and somewhat buckled at each end. My whole kitchen floor is affected, with some areas worse than others. It's so bad that I have trouble sweeping the floor. The flooring store is still trying to get installation fees paid by Konecto. Konecto has supplied the flooring each time, but refuses to pay installation, as I'm understanding from the flooring store. I love the look of the flooring. I love the feel of the flooring. The planks just don't stick together.
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I have been told that the TrafficMaster Allure flooring sold by Home Depot is really Konecto, only slightly thinner and less expensive; if this is wrong, someone please correct me.

I installed about 600 square feet of Allure Hickory in a guest house that I rent to a tenant who has three cats and a small dog. After one year it still looks as new as the day it was installed, and shows no seam lifting, (even though we didn't roll it, because we were not aware that we had to).

It is installed over a concrete slab floor, but perhaps the reason we haven't had any moisture or adhesive problems as others have reported is that: 1. we live in Southern California at a 2000 foot elevation with excellent drainage, where the ground is usually dry and the temperature never goes below 32 degrees, and 2. (this may be the most important) the Allure sits on top of a glued-on vinyl tile floor that acts as a buffer/seal between the concrete and the Allure (Konecto). The tile was a horrible color combination that we had to cover up if we ever wanted to get a tenant, and I didn't want to spend a fortune covering up a perfectly servicable floor just for better cosmetics, so I initially chose the Home Depot product for its low cost.

The other option would have been carpeting, and as a matter of fact we did carpet the two bedrooms for better barefoot comfort. What a mistake! The nice new carpet is now ruined with cat and dog pee and stains and the bedrooms smell so bad I hate to go into them. Of course the tenant won't ever see her security deposit again.

On the other hand, the Allure floor has been completely waterproof and any pet doo gets wiped up with no trace or odor left. It shows no wear, needs no maintenance, and fools almost everyone who sees it into thinking it has a real wood surface.

Rule No. 1 when renting to tenants: never lay carpet. Instead use an indestructible, floating, repairable, waterproof flooring. I intend to replace the carpet with more of the Allure asap.

Rule No. 2: try to use the same color and texture throughout. We mixed Hickory in the living area adjacent to Oak in a hallway-bathroom area, and the contrast is just too obvious. Also, where the two meet you won't have overlapping planks. Better to use the same variety in every room and use throw-rugs for interest if needed (or have the tenants buy their own).
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you're right about that. perhaps make a room here for people's SUCCESS stories and dealings with various products while doing projects?
always nice to hear good news nowadays!

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I too am very happy with the vinyl wood floor planks. while mine has only been down for a month, I could not be happier! I don't know and don't care if Allure is really a subspecies of Konecto, but the Trafficmaster was easy to install, although alot of waste when doing a narrow hall, but they had a 800 hot line to help answer any of my questions that is on the boxes. It totally fooled everyone too. They were very impressed. So if you have pets, this stuff is great. I applied it over a concrete floor and old glued down kitchen floor. I rolled mine out. that glue on the strips is phenomenal! Very happy.
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As of this writing, this thread is showing it has had 15,226 views. How can that be?
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Well that wouls seem to indicate to me that alot of people have read it.

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