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Old 01-27-2011, 12:12 PM   #1
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I'm about to take up some carpet from my kitchen and install tile. The area is about 15x14.

This carpet, I'm told, was laid down because the floor was in such bad shape that it was the easiest and cheapest way to go. I don't know what's under the carpet (i.e pad), but there's probably linoleum beneath any pad.

Looking up from the basement, it would appear that the subfloor is made of planks rather than plywood, but I'm not sure if this (looking up from the basement) is a good indicator.

So, I guess I won't know anything until I get the carpet up, but I was wondering if I could get some suggestions for this project. It's rental property, and I'm going to pay for it myself, rather than asking landlord. I don't mind, but I also don't want to spend too much since it's not my house, but I don't want to spend so little that it's a poor install.

So, can anyone give me some suggestions as to the type of tile (vinyl, ceramic, self-stick vs. using glue, etc.) regarding ease of install + price.

Of course, correctly installing this is my goal, so I also need advise on what to look for regarding the condition of the existing subfloor. How clean will it have to be for the different types of tile?

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Old 01-27-2011, 12:33 PM   #2
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I just took a look under the carpet, and there is indeed linoleum down (below pad).

I'm a complete novice at installing tile, so all tips appreciated. For instance, I suppose I'll need to take up the linoleum or is there material I can simply put over the existing linoleum?

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So, can anyone give me some suggestions as to the type of tile (vinyl, ceramic, self-stick vs. using glue, etc.) regarding ease of install + price.

Of course, correctly installing this is my goal, so I also need advise on what to look for regarding the condition of the existing subfloor. How clean will it have to be for the different types of tile?
Vinyl peel-and-stick is probably going to be the easiest, least-messy, and cheapest of the solutions. Ceramic or stone is going to require you to put down some backing material - and in a rental I wouldn't personally go through that cost and trouble.

Typically vinyl can be applied on top of vinyl with no problems. You may have an issue if the existing vinyl has holes or missing pieces. Also take note that older linoleum contained asbestos, which is better left in place or professionally removed.
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Well, I'm down to the linoleum now, and it's not in terrible shape, but it's dirty and has some paint splotches, so I do want to cover it. I'm thinking some vinyl tile, but not the self stick kind, cause I'm afraid it will come apart over time with settling, etc. We plan to be in this house for quite awhile, so I'm not concerned with being a tenant.

A buddy of mine says I'll need some underlayment (backerboard??) that comes in 4'x8' sheets, and some sealer for the seams that needs to be on it for at least 24 hours before putting down the tile. He also says it needs to be nailed every 4" (lots of nails!!), and that the nails will need to be countersunk and sealer over those.

Any thoughts on the above? What type of sealer will I need? What type of underlayment - I'm thinking 1/4 inch??

I appreciate all the help.
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PS) I'm wanting to simply go over the existing linoleum witht he underlayment. Is there any problem with that? If I don't have to, I'd prefer not to have to take up the old linoleum.
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If it isn't cushioned, just go over it.
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Went to Home Depot tonight and saw the Allure planks. I also read several threads on the forum about this product, and see both positive and negatives.

My question would be would this product do okay over the existing linoleum I have? It's not at all a completely flat surface, and is curling up around the edges.

I can't imagine adding the cost of a new underlayment with this already $1.79/SF Allure when I could get the cheaper < $1 stuff.

One other question: everything I seen in the Vinyl Tile section was peel and stick. I was under the impression that the better quality stuff would require adhesive. ??

Rusty: How would I determine if it is cushioned? I can't reall detect it under foot, although it was probably installed many decades ago.

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