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Old 12-11-2011, 09:43 PM   #1
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My 1940s/50s house has very bad floor in the kitchen and entry space. The floor is squeaky and uneven possibly because of the years of the water damage. There are stick on vinyl tiles over something that looks like rotten wood. Can it be plywood? What was used in the 50s? Iíve attached the pictures. I need to install ceramic tiles. Should I try to remove the current floors or I can cover everything with bonding liquid, level with levelling compound and put tiles on top of this mess? What is the best solution? Does anybody can identify what is under the vinyl tiles now? How can it be removed? Thanks!!!!!
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What is the size of the floor joists?
What is the spacing of the floor joists?
What is the wood species of the floor joists?
What is the unsupported span of the floor joists?
How thick is the (it is plywood by the way) plywood subfloor?

Squeaky floors are obviously a sign of movement and movement is not a good thing when it comes to ceramic tile installations.
Not all structures are suitable for ceramic tile.

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At the very least that plywood has to come out.
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At the very least that plywood has to come out.
Not necessarily. Hang on and wait for some more information.
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Not necessarily. Hang on and wait for some more information.
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Agreed. The pictures sure look bad though, along with the op's description of how rough it is. If it's gotten wet that often, it's got to be all delaminated.
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i belive pryer to 1972 all homes unless concreate floor were some type of flooring or pine slates over joist ,with that said, if it is plywood they did a remodel a few years back .tom wentzwood
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May as well go buy a Toe Kick saw and an ossilating saw your going to need it to take the old flooring out.
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No way do those tiles date back to when the house was built. My guess is they're from the '70's or 80's. Looks like .055 (very thin) hydrocord printed vinyl tiles that were imported from Taiwan. We need to hear from the OP from Michigan on the details Bud axed.

My guess is that the subfloor is 1x4 pine planks on a diagonal with 5/8" ply over that. That should be how the original subfloor system was likely built. What may have been done since is anyone's guess. So we wait for answers.

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No way do those tiles date back to when the house was built. My guess is they're from the '70's or 80's.

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I would not be surprised if they were 10-15 years newer than that.
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Looks like some of the early Lick 'N' Sticks to me.
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That's what I thought. I think you can still buy that pattern,but they are thinner now.

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