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Old 12-08-2010, 03:08 PM   #1
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I'm considering purchasing a Roberts 10-55 Jamb Saw.

I'll be installing carpet (mostly) and some tile throughout my house over the next couple of years. I'd like to do so over the existing hardwood, without removing all of the baseboard. The baseboard is painted 1 x 8 pine.

Two questions:
1) Is it feasible to undercut 1/2" in a fairly neat fashion (at least that a low nap carpet would hide?

2) In a very small application (4' x 6' foyer), is it feasible to install the tile under the existing baseboard once it is trimmed?

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i asked a similar question of a local finish carpenter, and was told It would mess up the baseboard trim. in addition, if you ever want to go back to the hardwood floor, you will have the cut to worry about.

what about using some 1/4 round at the bottom?

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I'm considering purchasing a Roberts 10-55 Jamb Saw.

I'll be installing carpet (mostly) and some tile throughout my house over the next couple of years. I'd like to do so over the existing hardwood, without removing all of the baseboard. The baseboard is painted 1 x 8 pine.

Two questions:
1) Is it feasible to undercut 1/2" in a fairly neat fashion (at least that a low nap carpet would hide?

2) In a very small application (4' x 6' foyer), is it feasible to install the tile under the existing baseboard once it is trimmed?
I would not attempt either of these. simply lay your new floor then attach 3 quarter round trim to your 1x 8 pine.
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Old 12-08-2010, 11:01 PM   #4
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The carpet doesn't necessarily have to go under the baseboard. Any semi-talented carpet installer can make it work.

You NEVER want to install any ceramic tile over any hardwood flooring.
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The carpet doesn't necessarily have to go under the baseboard. Any semi-talented carpet installer can make it work.

You NEVER want to install any ceramic tile over any hardwood flooring.
I am not a big remodel guy. I have built a few new homes for myself but very little remodel experience. Why can't you put cement board over existing hardwood flooring then tile over that???? I have never done it but in my mind I can not find a problem with it. If I am wrong ( which is entirely possible) please help me learn I am always willing to listen and learn.
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Why can't you put cement board over existing hardwood flooring then tile over that???? I have never done it but in my mind I can not find a problem with it.
Because...hardwood flooring is in fact unstable (believe it or not) when it comes to covering it with a rigid ceramic tile installation. It moves slightly in all directions with seasonal changes, atmospheric changes, yada yada, and such but as a hardwood floor the movement goes unnoticed. Place a hard rigid tile floor over it and you can be asking for serious trouble.

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My biggest concern here is time.

I don't want to incur the extra time of mitering, installing and finishing shoe molding through the majority of this house. Nor do I like the look of it.
My hope is that with a steady hand, I could set the guide on this saw to 3/4" and make a straight-enough cut for the carpet to hide. Use the multi-tool to catch the ISCs that the saw can't hit and tuck under.

There is currently 1/4 round installed to the hardwood. If I pull that and tuck the carpet between the tack and base, I'm afraid that the old paint line will show. I do not want to refinish this baseboard (which is also why I don't want to pull the base & reset it).

Has anybody tried to use one of these saws to do as I described?


As far as the tile job, I'll definitely be looking for more advice on these details in an upcoming post.

Thanks all for your input.
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If you don't have the time to do it right now , When will you ?
Quote from a wise old man.

We install cpt with the base flush to the floor all the time . What is the problem ?
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If you don't have the time to do it right now , When will you ?
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We install cpt with the base flush to the floor all the time . What is the problem ?
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If you don't have the time to do it right now , When will you ?
Quote from a wise old man.

We install cpt with the base flush to the floor all the time . What is the problem ?
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There is currently 1/4 round installed to the hardwood. If I pull that and tuck the carpet between the tack and base, I'm afraid that the old paint line will show. I do not want to refinish this baseboard (which is also why I don't want to pull the base & reset it).
This is the problem.

And if trimming the base would work, It would be "doing it right". That's what I'm trying to determine.
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Is it a true 1/4" 1/4 rnd ?
Are you installing pad under the cpt ?
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Floor Doc,
It's a 3/4" high quarter round. Yes pad under the carpet. I was thinking on trimming out 3/4" from the bottom of the base, right across the paint line. I know this will be high, but I may also consider a longer nap carpet to hide that. I appreciate any advice!
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1] You don't want to leave the 1/4 rnd down . Makes a much nicer looking job when the cpt goes to the wall.
2] Use 1/" 8 to 10LB rebond pad . that leaves you with only 1/4" to cover with the cpt .

Hope this helps .
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Thanks, Doc!

So you think the Jamb Saw would do a well-enough job undercutting 3/4" off the baseboard, then?
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Still don't know why you want to cut the baseboard . There is no need for it .
The Jam saw is for door jams . If i were going to rip the base , i would take it off and run it through the table saw .

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