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Old 10-09-2011, 09:33 AM   #1
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Hi, so glad that I found this web site, long time reader first time poster
Ok my husband and I have purchased a 1958 ranch style house a year and a half ago and I have patiently been waiting (sometimes not so patient) to gut my kitchen. My question for you is which way can my hardwood go.
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I am moving the door from the kitchen to garage over 2.5 feet, knocking the wall out from kitchen to dining room and the rest of the house has 1 3/4 inch solid oak hardwood.Will post pics of before and after plans when my son can help me.
Handy with tools yes, handy with computers not so much.
If I lay my new floors, oh sorry 2 1/4 inch oak, the same direction will it look to odd? Or should I lay them at a 180 degree angle to them. The sub floor is 3/4 ply. The new flooring will be higher than the old because I think they laid the old oak right on the joists with no sub, hard to tell when you can't peek under it. Will no for sure when I rip out the 1/4 inch sub floor on the kitchen floor. Yea they laid the sub floor over the old linolium and old sub. Just getting rid of the one layer, afraid to touch the original because I'm sure it is asbestos made.
I hope this is as clear as mud in June.
Can't wait to get started!!
ps old floor will be sanded down and stained to match new floor which came pre finished.
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Old 10-09-2011, 05:31 PM   #2
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You have some investigating to do----

In 1958 wood was cheap and electricians were not---so----

This is the typical floor----floor joists----1x6 skip sheeting---1x2 sleepers (with electric conduit in between) then 3/4" hardwood or plywood.

If this is your house---to lay hardwood safely you will need to remove the 3/4" ply and install the hardwood on sleepers---

If you don't you stand a good chance of nailing the conduit and causing a real nightmare electrical outage.---Mike---

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Old 10-10-2011, 06:35 PM   #3
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thank you for the advice, hadn't thought of that. Looked in the basement at the floor joists and the electrical wires run about 6-8 inches below floor line. So unless I am going to install using the longest nails or staples known to man I believe I am safe there.
What is your opinion on the different directions of the floor?
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Matching a prefinish to a sanded in place floor will be hard--so I agree--run it in a different direction or an a diagonal--

I would pull out the old ply and get the floors level if it were my choice---but it's not---Mike---
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when I did something similar, I did uneven floor heights and ran the flooring in different directions. I also used different kinds of wood, so even with sanding the old stuff, it all looked different.
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Thanks for all the advice. I don't think I want to pull up the original linoleum, its probably contains asbestos. So I will probably lay it at an angle. will post photos when I'm done.
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I have my doubts that linoleum is original. Pull it up.
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Probably mid 80's vinyl.
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There are two layers of vinyl, top layer from the eighty's. then a quarter inch sub floor with the original vinyl under that. Its the deepest one I'm worried about.
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Hey thanks for all the advice and help. All walls down to stud and all old flooring gone. We are going to hang drywall this week, woosh tired! After the careful inspection from madame kitty I ripped out all old drywall. ;-)

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Updating progress, can lights in and just finished putting up drywall. Now for the messy part, mudding sand, repeat.

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YES! Flooring is done, walls are primed! I need a vacation from my holiday ;-)
Thank you all for your advice. I am so glad we took out all lateral of subfloor and linoleum

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