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Old 02-08-2012, 11:04 AM   #31
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Sounds like a Jersey Mud set---not good---

Could you explain this term.

If it is 1 1/2 inches of mud on the floor, that is the way all tile used to be set......

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Could you explain this term.

If it is 1 1/2 inches of mud on the floor, that is the way all tile used to be set......
Jersey mud jobs are used quiet often on this forum that I have seen so far I don't know if it's the jersey shore tv show or there driving lol but I never seen there tile work so could it be any better then those two things? Lol

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Old 02-08-2012, 08:55 PM   #33
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Higgins,

What you described a few posts ago does not sound correct. I don't think you've got what you think under the tiles.

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3/4" OSB
Felt Paper
Hardibacker ?
Mesh
Tile (3/4")
There is no felt or mesh (lath) when any concrete backer is used. Plus your tiles are not 3/4". Let us know.

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Higgins,

What you described a few posts ago does not sound correct. I don't think you've got what you think under the tiles.

There is no felt or mesh (lath) when any concrete backer is used. Plus your tiles are not 3/4". Let us know.

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It could be possible that he has mesh for a filler well just have to wait for the photo.
Or he could be seeing durock instead of backer board hence the mesh looking idea.

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Old 02-08-2012, 10:34 PM   #35
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3/4" OSB
Felt Paper
Hardibacker ?
Mesh
Tile (3/4")

Ok my bad. Looks like:
3/4 OSB
Felt Paper
Mesh
Grout
3/8" tile maybe 1/2" not sure

Started putting down the sub flooring and the scews I am using (Gold 1.25" Grip Rights), some of them spin out and will not drive deep enough to counter sink. I think I might go the stapler route.
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That looks like just a big bag of nonsense there....
Ply
Durock that's in bad shape,
maybe backerboard?.. defiantly more cement filler of some sort
And some thick tile

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Op could use an underlayment like Schluter-DITRA. That is an option too. You can mud directly on top of that and then lay the tiles. I believe he can still use the hardi board too if he needs.

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That looks like just a big bag of nonsense there....
I was thinking the same
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Jersey mud set---not an accepted tile installation method----expanded mesh stapled to the subfloor--some times with a tar paper underliner---then thinset troweled into the mesh--then the tile
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Nope, should have been underlament rated.
Sheathing will have unfilled knot holes in the plys, and not enough plys.
I also use a narrow 1-1/2 crown staple when attaching thinner plys. I can set it in automatic and nail a whole sheet in 1 min. and it leaves no dumples or big holes that would need filling it you were laying sheet goods.
Who would have thought laying an aditional 1/2" would be so hard... My newst problem is I have two staple guns a Porter Cable that can shoot a maxiumum of 18g 1" staples or a Dewalt that shoots 16g 1-2". The only problem is nobody carries 16g 1.25" in a box thats smaller than 10k

Would using a 18g 1" be a bad thing?
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To short---That's a problem for you guys that don't do this kind of work all the time---

Man do you get whacked buying the little packages of fasteners--
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Higgins,

We may be wasting time talking about the part that is already done and you claim is in good shape, but.......

I'm not sure what I'm looking at the that pic. What is that material over the OSB? The concrete over that looks like too thin mud, but not sure. It could be 1/2" Durock or Wonderboard.

I do not see a Jersey Mud job though. We don't do that much around here.

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To short---That's a problem for you guys that don't do this kind of work all the time---

Man do you get whacked buying the little packages of fasteners--
I ended up going to a place that specializes in fastners. Fasteners Inc (Livonia). I eneded up buying some Paslode 1/2" crown 1 1/2" Legnth 16 guage staples for my medium stapler. The guy that worked there was very knowledgable and said Paslode recommends 1" peneration threw the material your attaching (in my case 1/2" ply).

I gotta plug this place because there are the cheapest I could find these staples... and they beat the lowest price I could find on the internet and around town by $20.00+, I think they beat Lowes and HD by $60.00+
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What is that material over the OSB?
It feels like felt paper.
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OK it's paper, just didn't look like it. So, it's a poorly done mud job. I say that cuz a proper mud should be at least 3/4" thick, and that looks barely 1/2". I might be wrong on the thickness though. However it's done and holding up fine.

I agree about Fasteners Inc. It's their specialty.

OK, back to this project.

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