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Alan 02-26-2007 01:49 PM

How hard is it to replace linoleum?
 
or vinyl flooring?

I'm not sure what it is, but either way, I'm going to be repainting the room, putting in a new vanity/lave, and probably a storage cabinet, so pulling the toilet to replace the current flooring material will be no big deal.

I've never tried ripping this stuff up before, so I don't know what kind of problems i'm going to run into while i'm doing it. What kind of timeframe am I looking at?

I'm also not sure what kind of products are out there.... IE : Anything new and revolutionary?

At the moment i'm leaning toward just using a different color and updated style of liinoleum. The current one is old and ugly anyway, so I might as well replace it.
I don't really want to use the peel/stick tiles. My folks tried that in their kitchen and encountered all kinds of shrinking problems, and now their floor looks terrible. Glueless laminate is an option, but i'm not sure how I would get that to work around the toilet. From what I understand you're not supposed to put your fixtures/cabinets on top of it.
I've considered real tile, but again, this might end up being time consuming, and having only one bathroom will cause a major issue although the room is only about 4x8 Very small, so tiling the floor might be pretty easy... What do you think?

Thanks :)

redline 02-26-2007 02:43 PM

what condition is the current floor?

Alan 02-26-2007 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by redline (Post 34848)
what condition is the current floor?

Structurally the floor is fine from what I can tell.

Unless you're talking about the current linoleum/vinyl it appears to be in pretty great condition. Its not torn or peeling anywhere that I can tell, except for right around the door jamb where they cut, it doesn't look like they pushed all the way down, or didn't cut enough to be able to push it down.

dante 02-26-2007 05:49 PM

Hope i'm helpful
 
Is it true linoleum or is it vinyl? If it's true linoleum its probably at least 15 yrs old, other wise its vinyl. True linoleum should peal up with no problem even on wood subfloors. Vinyl on the other hand is not as easy. What you need to do if you can't pull up the linoleum is buy some embossing leveler. Embossing is the pattern on the floor. If you cant feal the pattern it's just a print. Trowel the embossing leveler on entire floor. Once dry, scrape any ridges you feel. Now your free to install another peice of vinyl. If using laminate you won't need to take those steps, just pull the toilet and install laminate. Make sure you go around the toilet flange but leave a 3/8" space around the flange as well as every wall. You can put anything you want on top of the floor, just don't anchor it directly to the floor (no nails through the floor).:)

Dante

Floorwizard 03-01-2007 12:07 AM

Well said....

Wideawake 03-01-2007 10:52 PM

I reno'd a rental property I own and pulled up multiple layers of old linoleum tiles (the original type). You can re-tile right over them, but if you're adding too many layers, you could have issues with re-installing your toilet. Not insurmountable of course but some people like to reno clean so if you decide to pull it all up, here's how.

Dante, you said pulling linoleum up from a wooden subfloor was easy but that sure wasn't my experience. Its very brittle at room temperature and I could only get small pieces from the edges while the rest was glued on for life. Then someone told me about using an old iron. If was messy but it became like putty as soon as I left the iron on it for a while. Some glue residue was left but this wasn't a problem.

Dante is bang on about using the leveler though. Even the slightest seam of indentation will show a crack eventually so you need a completely smooth and level surface if you plan on installing linoleum again, regardless of whether you do it over the old floor or on a clean subfloor. The iron comes in very handy during installation again: if you warm up the tiles, you can use a utility knife and cut pieces like butter to whatever shape you need. You'll never be able to use it on clothes again, though, so I've picked up a few at garage sales just in case another lino project comes up.

Ceramic/porcelain tile can be great but only an option if your joists aren't too far apart. Jump on the floor and if there is any give at all, your ceramic tile will crack. (Again, not insurmountable but you'd need to pull up the subfloor and install 3/4 inch plywood. this isnt a great option if you need your bathroom later the same day). If it works, I would opt for very narrow grout lines. I tried wider grout lines around a slate floor I did in a bathroom once and they didn't wear very well under all the traffic and water.

Hope this helps.


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