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Old 03-19-2012, 01:20 PM   #1
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How can a bathroom floor float?


I'm thinking of Home Depot's glue-together vinyl Allure for an old bathroom with plywood underlayment. The salesman says since it floats it won't telegraph underlying imperfections. But if the toilet sits on the Allure, I assume it can't float. Has that caused problems for anyone?

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A floating floor must have space around it's perimeter. You do not place cabinets or toilets on it. Not a good choice for bath flooring. you could cut around the toilet and make a clean caulking joint to seal it, since this will be flexible enough to allow the floor to expand and contract as needed.

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The Allure material will work for the bath floor under the toilet. It's NOT like a
laminate that NEEDS to float.It won't expand and contract The appeal of this vinyl material is what you stated - it doesn't glue to the sub-floor.
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Thanks to both above responders. On to the followup question(s): Does Allure really keep underlying rough spots from showing thru? And does that still hold if it's prevented from actually floating?
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Alloure flooring does expand and contract, installed to tight to the wall and it will start to buckle and lift the glued areas.
It will work fine with a toilet sitting on it because it still can expand in all directions along it's length.
You keep asking if the flaws will show thorugh, just how bad is this subflooring. A picture would sure be nice.
Flaws will show though and can cause the flooring to fail from flexing as it's walked on.
Far better to replace the sub flooring if it's that bad or has weak spots or at least fill in the low spots with floor leveler. You could then go over the whole floor with 1/4 subfloor rated sanded plywood for a perfectly smooth floor.
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Your correct about too tight to the wall plates. I didn't clarify that.
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Want to guess how I found that out? lol
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Want to guess how I found that out? lol
Let me guess the hard way Joe lol
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here's a link from another post of this topic:
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Thanks for the additional comments and Google info. The subfloor has a raised (buckled) central seam between plywood panels that runs the length of the room. I'm working on it with a belt sander and there is still 1/4" at the up end of a 2' level lying across it with the other end flat. Should I settle for 1/16"? The subfloor also has glue stripes throughout that look like boot treads but are not much over a millimeter high, and I'd like to ignore them. I'm thinking of putting another layer of plywood down but assume the buckled seam needs to be sanded flat first.
I will try to post pictures.
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One pic shows the partially sanded raised central seam. The other is a close-up of the glue stripes everywhere.
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One pic shows the partially sanded raised central seam. The other is a close-up of the glue stripes everywhere.
It looks to me like tile? Under the glue , am I seeing it wrong?
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It's actually all plywood. Someone else tried to glue down tile on the plywood and grouted it and it does look like tile. But once I ruin sanding belts with the glue, I get to the wood.
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It's actually all plywood. Someone else tried to glue down tile on the plywood and grouted it and it does look like tile. But once I ruin sanding belts with the glue, I get to the wood.
Oh ok, we'll good luck post some photos when it's all sanded

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