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Old 07-12-2006, 10:25 PM   #16
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We're owner builders and just ordered our laminate. It took us 4 months to decide which to buy since there are sooooo many (between brands, color, pattern, and ease of installation) options.

We wanted something mid-range, nothing more than $3/sq.ft. material. First we were going to go with the Lumber Liquidator cheapie stuff, but after a lot of reading, we thought that it seems worth the exra cash for better stuff. So we went to our local flooring store and saw some samples and of course got the run down on each brand (Shaw, Mannington, Alloc, QuickStep, and a couple others that I forgot). We ended up getting Mannington locally (considered ordering online) for $2.87/sq.ft. (got a deal from the dealer) with the good sound proofing underlayment (some blue color item) since we're buying 1500 sq.ft. of it. We ended with Mannington because of the pattern, it was more beautiful to us than the rest. The other items like installation, warranty, and other basics were comparable to the other mid-range brands.

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Old 11-14-2008, 08:15 PM   #17
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I had Quick Step installed in Jan. 08. The salesman came to the house. We have 2 large dogs, which he saw. Originally we were going to get tile in the whole main area, kitchen, living and hallways. He sold us on the Quick Step for the living and hallways. We went with tile in the kitchen and small bath.

We told him our concern about the dog's nails scratching the laminate. He told us that he had seen someone try to scratch a sample with a screwdriver and could not scratch it. So we went with the laminate, Quick Step series 700 gunstock red oak color, 7mm. After less than six months, it is totally destroyed with scratches. I trim the dogs' nails to what I consider normal length at regular intervals.

I see how almost everyone on this site and the net in general are so happy with Quick Step. The installer is offering to replace it with the same tile that is in the rest of the house, but wants $2200 more since the tile cost is more than the laminate.

Some questions going thru my mind:

1.Is it possible that I got a bad lot of Quick Step?
2.Could it have been exposed to heat or something during shipment that rendered it weaker than it normally is?
3.Is it possible that if I had them put a new set of Quick Step down that I would get the good results everyone else seems to get with Quick Step? 4.Did they sell me one grade of Quick Step and install a lower one?

Please help! I need to make a decision soon.
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Old 11-14-2008, 08:22 PM   #18
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1.Is it possible that I got a bad lot of Quick Step?
Maybe. I had my first complaint in 8 years recently due to the same thing. Since it is a minority, I would imagine this may be a possibility. Doubtfull though.

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2.Could it have been exposed to heat or something during shipment that rendered it weaker than it normally is?
no

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3.Is it possible that if I had them put a new set of Quick Step down that I would get the good results everyone else seems to get with Quick Step?
Doing the same thing and expecting different results rarely pays off.

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4.Did they sell me one grade of Quick Step and install a lower one?
That is totally possible.

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He told us that he had seen someone try to scratch a sample with a screwdriver and could not scratch it.
umm...I can scratch ANY material with a screwdriver.
Maybe they used the handle?

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I trim the dogs' nails to what I consider normal length at regular intervals.
Are you sure they are scratches and not Bone that has worn on the Alum Oxide?
Konecto has a scratch remover that works well if they are scratches.

Are these deep scratches or micro-abrasions?
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What do you mean by "Bone" that has worn on the alum oxide? I take it you don't literally mean "bones"!

The scratches are not so deep that they have any actual depth to them. But I wouldn't actually call them micro either. And they don't look like abrasions, they are long, parallel scratches, so they do look like they came from the dog's toenails.
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Aluminum Oxide is stronger than bone.
If nails are sharp enough, and the dog is heavy enough it can cause scratches.
If the nail is nubby then the BONE wears down on the Aluminum Oxide and transfers to it causing a streak.
I was wondering if this was the case.

One time a car forced me into a Birm of ice on the side of the road....
after hitting it I got out to check for damage.
There was a HUGE scratch on the side of my truck!
I had a bad drive home and my wife came out to look at it.
She rubbed at the scratch and it disappeared. Turns out the Ice just rubbed off on my car making it look like a scratch.

Same kinda thing here maybe........
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I see what you mean. And it kind of makes sense, because it does seem that the scratching worsened after I clipped the nails. I don't clip them down to bone, but just the base of the nail, which is thicker and harder than the tip that I just trimmed off. Do they have that commercial for the Pedi Paws device up there? It is a motorized nail file. I have started using that, maybe it will help somewhat.

I see what you mean about the coating and rubbing off the surface imperfections. I have tried all different kinds of sprays, cleaners, mops etc to rub off the surface scratches. I am surprised no one makes a liquid solution of that aluminum oxide that you could put on to touch up the surface. Maybe that Konecto solution you mentioned will help.

In the mean time, I was thinking of meeting the installer halfway. I think he way overcharged for the install. He was telling me if he did the tile replacement for $2200, he would be taking a total loss on the laminate. I am estimating he paid about $1.00 a sq.ft for the laminate and the going rate for install down here is about $2.50 a square foot. If he gives me credit for everything over that, I'll settle for that and not make him come in and replace it. We'll just live with it until we have the money to do it ourselves. I financed it with their finance company so I am not out any money yet.
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Do they have that commercial for the Pedi Paws device up there? It is a motorized nail file.
Yes, I really want one of those big time-

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I am surprised no one makes a liquid solution of that aluminum oxide that you could put on to touch up the surface.
Sometimes manufacturers glaze it on top, sometimes it's immbedded into the surface layer.
I would imagine a spray on Alum Oxide would look terrible...nice thought though.

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Maybe that Konecto solution you mentioned will help.
It helped on some huge scratches on my showroom floor.
dang near completely gone-

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In the mean time, I was thinking of meeting the installer halfway. I think he way overcharged for the install. He was telling me if he did the tile replacement for $2200, he would be taking a total loss on the laminate.
but what if you get the same results......

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I am estimating he paid about $1.00 a sq.ft for the laminate
Only if the distributer sold to him direct.
Probably more in the $1.50 range

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