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Old 11-03-2011, 01:02 PM   #61
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Bud, you still never responded to my 2nd thread! LOL
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Old 11-03-2011, 01:35 PM   #62
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Waiting for a link to "Mom's Forum" !
OMG...lol...it is a private forum so you wouldn't be able to view freely like here. And I think that is semi-weird you want to get on..haha
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Old 11-04-2011, 04:35 PM   #63
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Oh...... I would pay to see some of Bud's commentary on a Mom's forum. That would be priceless!!!
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Old 11-04-2011, 05:09 PM   #64
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Ok, so enough with mom forum talk.

We got up the rest of the old floor. I just do not feel it is sturdy enough to put Ditra down over.

I called a few tile stores who sell Ditra in my area. Both agreed that I should glue and nail/screw 1/4 inch plywood over the existing 5/8" original subfloor. They said I def had to glue it as well and that added 1/4 inch should made the floor better. Then lay the modified thinset, ditra and then tile.
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Old 11-04-2011, 05:28 PM   #65
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I called a few tile stores who sell Ditra in my area. Both agreed that I should glue and nail/screw 1/4 inch plywood over the existing 5/8" original subfloor. They said I def had to glue it as well and that added 1/4 inch should made the floor better. Then lay the modified thinset, ditra and then tile.
The Tile Industry standard is to NEVER use 1/4" plywood in any tile installation. Sorry I don't make up the rules.

The Tile Industry standard is to never use adhesive to install a second plywood underlayment.

The Schluter warranty for DITRA clearly states that it can be installed over a 5/8" subfloor.

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Ok, so enough with mom forum talk.
Why's that? Just because you say so?

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it is a private forum so you wouldn't be able to view freely
Who do you think you are talking to? I didn't just fall off the pumpkin cart you know?

I personally think you are soliciting information from too many sources and obviously even the tile-knowledgeable people you are talking to aren't really that tile-knowledgeable it appears.

What does BIL have to say about all of this?
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Old 11-04-2011, 06:48 PM   #66
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BIL says we can do it but he is all about the flush factor....if we do the 1/4 inch on top then the tile is going to come up just a tad over the real hardwood...but that is fine with me as we'll get a transition strip.

The tile co's...who do that for a living said anything we add to the top will made it it so that it is supported better. I did mention to them that I thought Ditra was not supposed to be laid over 1/4 inch but they said that combined with the 5/8 already there then that it wouldn't tech be 1/4 inch.

I know Ditra says that I can install over 5/8...I read the PDF instructions. BUT my subfloor is crappy! I walked on it with heels today and the heel went right through.

Would you feel comfortable leaving it that way????

Any can you tell me why the "tile industy" says not to use adhesive for 2nd layer? So would I just screw/nail it?
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Old 11-04-2011, 07:19 PM   #67
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If you walked over the existing wood substrate (subfloor) and your high heel went through it it is rotted and needs to be replaced. Means tearing up the old subfloor down to the joists and replacing it with a new subfloor. If you don't you are simply covering up a problem that will come back to haunt you both most likely with mold and mildew as well as moisture issues.
It is not moldy, milew or rotted. There are sections where nails came out with the old floor and where my BIL and husband pushed too hard with the 5 crobars they were using ripping up the may layers over. Mind you it is just 5/8" - not tounge and groove. House build in 1965.
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Well guess what....we got up all the old flooring and vacumed the floor. We had put a hole in the subfloor with a crobar so we needed to replace a section. My husband cut out the piece and the subfloor was actually a 1/2 inch thick!!!!

After calling a few people in the biz....we were told (read: forced) to patch that piece back and lay another subfloor over the new one. Things are looking good. I plan to lay the Ditra which I got on Sat today after work.

What a project this turned into. I do feel confident now that the subfloor is sturdy...no creaks or give anywhere.

Tiling should start this week or Sat...see how the sick kids feel this week.
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What a project so far! But finally seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. Here are some pics of the tile ungrouted. I got quite handy with the tile saw for a 1st timer.

I grout this weekend.

Overall, my husband is hoping I don't talk DIY for a while. LOL
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