glueless Vinyl product

NoviceDIY · 12-07-2005, 08:42 PM

Hi, I am new here. Have you heard of this product or used it before? http://vinylflooring.org/?gad=CNmRwq...it2JD-AyC_hMcJ They sell glueless vinyl products that are made of fiberglass along with other material.

The reason I am considering this is I have two layers of sheet vinyl in my kitchen. I had it tested and for sure it contrains asbestos. I do not want to remove them for health and cost reasons.

Since I am replacing everything in my kitchen, I would like a new floor but my choices are limited since I do not want to remove the existing vinyl. I could lay a 1/4 inch birch plywood as my underlayment and lay another sheet vinyl, but this will raise my floor too high.

This particular product (they have a 12 minute movie on their website) looks like what I can use: they can lay on top of 2 layers of vinyl; no glue is needed if the area is less than 25 squre yards; price is quite reasonable.

The only problem is I can not actually see in real life. I did order a sample from them, but I think it is just a very small piece.

Has anyone used this product and can provide some feedback of how you feel about it?

Floorwizard · 12-08-2005, 09:48 PM

This is the next big thing for vinyl.
So far it has worked great. And installers like it because it's dang near immpossible to tear.

Ash74 · 01-04-2008, 10:36 AM

We sell something like this at the Home Depot made by Armstrong and personally, I hate it.

It's a good DIY product for small areas with low traffic and that's about it.

Biggest complaint I've run into is having to re-lay the floor. Use and tempeture changes will cause it to come loose and need to be re-laid and re-attached every six to twelve months. Also, the vinyl isn't any more durrable than a standard 10 yr warrenty vinyl from any other company.

Keep in mind I've only worked w/ one brand of product. Others may be much better to work with in the long run.

Floorwizard · 01-04-2008, 12:34 PM

Yes, there are many other qualities in this type of floor now.

Albi · 08-18-2010, 09:44 PM

Pushed by the contractor, I went ahead and had my large kitchen done with a high quality glueless vinyl. At first, it looked wonderful. Then the vinyl started waving in one area, then in another area. Every day I seem to discover another problem. My old standard vinyl had lasted twenty years without the least bit of problem. On the other hand, this glueless vinyl started acting up only a few months after the installation by a respected local man who has done this type of work for years. So, you have been warned, DON'T BUY THIS TYPE OF VINYL!

poppameth · 08-19-2010, 06:57 AM

The problem is that everyone wants to install it as a loose lay. Install it with the correct adhesive full spread and most of these problems never appear. Flexitec's calls for rolling the glue on with a paint roller. There isn't anything difficult at all about it. We only loose lay this stuff in very specific circumstances.

rusty baker · 08-19-2010, 07:35 AM

Most of the loose-lay problems are caused by improper installation.

poppameth · 08-20-2010, 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rusty baker

Most of the loose-lay problems are caused by improper installation.

Also true. I've heard of plenty of buckling issues and usually no double faced tape was used in areas where it should have been, such as under the refrigerator.

12-07-2005, 08:42 PM	#1
NoviceDIY Newbie Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1	glueless Vinyl product Hi, I am new here. Have you heard of this product or used it before? http://vinylflooring.org/?gad=CNmRwq...it2JD-AyC_hMcJ They sell glueless vinyl products that are made of fiberglass along with other material. The reason I am considering this is I have two layers of sheet vinyl in my kitchen. I had it tested and for sure it contrains asbestos. I do not want to remove them for health and cost reasons. Since I am replacing everything in my kitchen, I would like a new floor but my choices are limited since I do not want to remove the existing vinyl. I could lay a 1/4 inch birch plywood as my underlayment and lay another sheet vinyl, but this will raise my floor too high. This particular product (they have a 12 minute movie on their website) looks like what I can use: they can lay on top of 2 layers of vinyl; no glue is needed if the area is less than 25 squre yards; price is quite reasonable. The only problem is I can not actually see in real life. I did order a sample from them, but I think it is just a very small piece. Has anyone used this product and can provide some feedback of how you feel about it?

12-08-2005, 09:48 PM	#2
Floorwizard Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Alaska! Posts: 1,522	glueless Vinyl product This is the next big thing for vinyl. So far it has worked great. And installers like it because it's dang near immpossible to tear.

01-04-2008, 10:36 AM	#3
Ash74 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Columbus Ohio Posts: 10	glueless Vinyl product We sell something like this at the Home Depot made by Armstrong and personally, I hate it. It's a good DIY product for small areas with low traffic and that's about it. Biggest complaint I've run into is having to re-lay the floor. Use and tempeture changes will cause it to come loose and need to be re-laid and re-attached every six to twelve months. Also, the vinyl isn't any more durrable than a standard 10 yr warrenty vinyl from any other company. Keep in mind I've only worked w/ one brand of product. Others may be much better to work with in the long run.

01-04-2008, 12:34 PM	#4
Floorwizard Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Alaska! Posts: 1,522	glueless Vinyl product Yes, there are many other qualities in this type of floor now.

08-18-2010, 09:44 PM	#5
Albi Newbie Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1	glueless Vinyl product Pushed by the contractor, I went ahead and had my large kitchen done with a high quality glueless vinyl. At first, it looked wonderful. Then the vinyl started waving in one area, then in another area. Every day I seem to discover another problem. My old standard vinyl had lasted twenty years without the least bit of problem. On the other hand, this glueless vinyl started acting up only a few months after the installation by a respected local man who has done this type of work for years. So, you have been warned, DON'T BUY THIS TYPE OF VINYL!

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