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Old 10-30-2013, 08:18 PM   #16
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Can I wrap something or insulate the cooper pipe? Someone mentioned this to me.
Not really. Yes you could place some 15# or 30# felt in there, and have the Copper piping lay on that, but you have to cut into that concrete deeper. Even with wanting to just use Grout over the pipe, that is going to crack really quick, or get washed out over time, leaving you with voids.

You would be best to pull that Copper piping out, put in Pex, then use an Epoxy filler in the hole to fill it. But first need to get that hole cut in deeper.

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Not really. Yes you could place some 15# or 30# felt in there, and have the Copper piping lay on that, but you have to cut into that concrete deeper. Even with wanting to just use Grout over the pipe, that is going to crack really quick, or get washed out over time, leaving you with voids.

You would be best to pull that Copper piping out, put in Pex, then use an Epoxy filler in the hole to fill it. But first need to get that hole cut in deeper.

Why do I have to cut the hole deeper? The pipe does not reach the top
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Why do I have to cut the hole deeper? The pipe does not reach the top
Even though it does not reach the top, anything you put in there, unless it is Epoxy, will crack with the Heating & Cooling of the piping as is. Can you give us a measurement of how the Copper sits in there now, to the top of the Concrete floor, along maybe four points in that trough.
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Are you going to be covering the patched area with tile?

Edit: just reread you are going to cover in tile.
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There are differing viewpoints on concrete touching copper. Some say it reacts with the concrete, others say it deteriorates from expansion and contraction.

Since you don't have much room, I suggest getting a section of 3/4 or 1" flexible black poly pipe. The type used for irrigation systems. Your HD might sell it in short sections so you don't have to buy a roll. Check to see if the copper pipe will fill inside the poly in the store.

Slit it lengthwise so you can get the poly around the pipe. Close the joint with some tape and if you are able, rotate the joint to the bottom. Fill the hole with self leveling compound and be done with it. You may need to do 2 pours if the trench is too deep for one.
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Dj thanks. If I am able to do that will work ok? What kind of tape? Greg suggests putting epoxy to fill it in. Make sense?
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Dj thanks. If I am able to do that will work ok? What kind of tape? Greg suggests putting epoxy to fill it in. Make sense?
You can use any tape. Electrical, packing. Really doesn't matter since you are covering it up. You should be able to use self leveling compound instead of epoxy.
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You can use any tape. Electrical, packing. Really doesn't matter since you are covering it up. You should be able to use self leveling compound instead of epoxy.
Thanks a lot DJ..much appreciated. Actually the copper pipe is right against the concrete at some points. Gonna just change it to Pex tomorrow. Thanks again though!!

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