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Old 08-30-2010, 07:54 PM   #1
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My brother and I are redoing our mother's kitchen (on a concrete slab).
I want to install cabinets first (putting them on 1/2" plywood to raise them to approximate level of the finished level of the ceramic tile floor not yet installed).
He wants to install tiles first then install cabinets.
I say it makes no real difference as quarter-round/baseboard will hide any rough edges of tile job butting the cabinets/walls.
He thinks it will make tiling easier with fewer cuts. I think cuts will need to be made either way.
People's thoughts are welcomed.
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Old 08-30-2010, 08:37 PM   #2
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I agree with you but either could work. The biggest reason for me is 1/2" OSB costs a lot less than cement board and tile, so that is what I am doing. Plus unless you have the perfect sized room you still will end up cutting tiles at the edges, so it doesn't save that much hassle with the tile saw.

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Floor first-----Much faster--leaves the cabinets at the right height---

I can see no reason to do cabinets first--What would be the advantage?---Mike---
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Benefit of plywood: Time to get my mom back to a functioning kitchen (she lives alone). I figure it would save at least one day. Also, wouldn't have to tile under cabinets and therefore less tile work; plywood is easier and faster to lay.
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This is a matter of preference. Either way has pluses and minuses. So either will be fine.
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A lot less cuts abutting the cabinets where there won't be any 1/4 round (lose the toe space, only cabinet base). Shim ply at the base backs, double wide for the sides. Cabinet layout with masking tape before tiling, remember to ply under dishwasher.

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Floor first. Too many ways to mention why you could be very sorry if you do cabinets first.

First, you can fix any un-level floors and the cabinets will sit perfectly flat and level.

Under-counter units like D/W and compactor may not fit if cabinets go in first.

Way too many careful cuts will make the tile job much harder.

You will create a "pool" where water accidents can collect and ruin cabinets.

You may never know you have a leak because the pool you created will trap the water out of sight while it destroys your cabinets.

You will find it next to impossible to match the flooring you will destroy getting old cabinets out.

Then there are the many reasons mentioned above by other people.
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Floor first. Too many ways to mention why you could be very sorry if you do cabinets first.

First, you can fix any un-level floors and the cabinets will sit perfectly flat and level.

Under-counter units like D/W and compactor may not fit if cabinets go in first.

Way too many careful cuts will make the tile job much harder.

You will create a "pool" where water accidents can collect and ruin cabinets.

You may never know you have a leak because the pool you created will trap the water out of sight while it destroys your cabinets.

You will find it next to impossible to match the flooring you will destroy getting old cabinets out.

Then there are the many reasons mentioned above by other people.
And donít forget that if you ever decide to replace your cabinets or enlarge your kitchen you will have problems with the un-tiled floor.
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But don't forget, if you put the floor down first and decide to change it later, you may have to pull your cabinets to change it.
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Thanks to all for the thoughts.
It looks like I'll be installing cabs first as tile is not yet delivered. I'll make sure plywood (or is OSB just as good?) is thick enough to be roughly equal to installed tile height so future changes of appliances are not an issue.
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Donít forget to allow for the height of the grout and tile together or you will have problems.

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