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Old 06-20-2007, 12:59 AM   #1
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Which comes first: carpets & tile, or doors


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I am in the process of rehabbing my house. Currently, we have terazzo floors, which is basically a concrete slab with sparkles in it. We intend to carpet the bedrooms, tile the hallway and other floors. We also need to replace all of the interior doors.

Which do I do first?

Do I replace the doors first?

Do I tile and carpet first, then replace the doors?

This is probably a very silly question, but I'm having a hard time visualizing how this is all supposed to come together.

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Old 06-20-2007, 06:02 AM   #2
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You should replace doors first.

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Old 06-20-2007, 06:07 AM   #3
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We are going to add carpet and tile (not in the same place) to the terazzo. Will the doors still open once this is added?

There is currently 1/2" gap at the bottom of the door. Won't the tile and carpet be thicker than 1/2"?

Forgive me if I am being stupid. I tend to get paranoid when planning a project.
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We are going to add carpet and tile (not in the same place) to the terazzo. Will the doors still open once this is added?
There is currently 1/2" gap at the bottom of the door. Won't the tile and carpet be thicker than 1/2"?
Forgive me if I am being stupid. I tend to get paranoid when planning a project.
You have a good question. When installing doors, you should be taking your flooring material and the finished height of that material into consideration.

Tile: If you add tile directly to the floor, then allow for approximately 3/8" addes thickness. I would suggest that you do your research on proper underlayment and subfloor thickness for tile.

Carpet: Add the padding and the carpet thickness into consideration. It's pretty much a certainty that you will have to trim doors down when "adding" carpet to an area. By trimming the door down, I am referring to the bottom of the door slab itself, not the casing and jambs. I am going to assume that you will be installing pre-hung doors, so you would install these as normal prior to the flooring work. After the flooring is installed, determine the amount of material that you need to remove off the bottom of your door slab, in order for it to clear the flooring on it's inswing. Remove the door and do your cuts appropriately using the right saw, saw blade and a straight edge.
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My wife want these fancy-shmancy doors with glass in them. I'm not sure if I'll be able to cut them without ruining them. The come complete with door frame.

If there is enough room, can I set the door jam about an inch off the floor? I think it will fit if I use less shims on the top. I can then fill-in under the door jam with the mid-floor, then carpet / tile.

Does that make sense?
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If you are going to do that, I'd put your subfloor in first, if that is what you mean by mid-floor and then set your doors on top of that. Should still give you the half inch gap that way. and you have one less layer of material to account for.
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My wife want these fancy-shmancy doors with glass in them. I'm not sure if I'll be able to cut them without ruining them. The come complete with door frame.

If there is enough room, can I set the door jam about an inch off the floor? I think it will fit if I use less shims on the top. I can then fill-in under the door jam with the mid-floor, then carpet / tile.

Does that make sense?
You could, but it won't look right. On pre-hung doors, the jambs are asually about 1/8" to 3/8" longer than the casing already. Raise it up and even when you install the tile work, it will not look right.

It's really not that difficult to cut a door slab down. However, I can understand your apprehension about cutting an expensive door down, if you have not done too many of them. What you could consider doing is speaking to a rep at the place that you plan on purchasing the doors from and see if they can be ordered with an additional 3/4" + taken off the door slab. The costs may actually be minimal. Remember, it never hurts to ask...
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Good call, I will ask.

Worse case, what should I use to cut the doors?

(Please don't laugh, it's my first house)
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Good call, I will ask.

Worse case, what should I use to cut the doors?

(Please don't laugh, it's my first house)

A Fein Multi Master.....of course


(J/K - that was for "Send it all")


Seriously: Straight edge clamped down. Skill saw with 24 + tooth blade...Measurements checked, marked, checked and rechecked prior to cutting. Practice on some scrap lumber first.
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Lets not be hasty...the Multi Master would work here.....j/k


This is one of the rare cases in which I would not recommend the MM....It's killing me.

This is also one of the millions of cases in which Atlantic is correct....AGAIN (it's getting a little boring, frankly)

Use the circular saw with a straight edge clamped to the door. Make sure that when you make your cut that the saw's motor wont hit your clamps as it goes by.
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Forgive me... but why would door being handle first ? if I am the one who doing it... I remove all doors... I then finish all flooring... I then base on the opening... to order doors.... if the door can be custom size .... if not... I will find the standard size most easy to cut/fit etc.... my question is: why messing around with the door first?
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I have been a carpet fitter for 10 years and I think that people should have a joiner to do the doors after, for the simple reason joiners dont think about carpet been fitted after and dont leave enough gap under the door so I have to take them of and the customer has got to call out the joiner again for an X amount.


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