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Old 05-07-2007, 04:15 PM   #1
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I have a bathroom with a full mud job ceramic tile on the floor only. The tile is in great shape but is a butt ugly color. Existing tile and mud is over plywood subfloor. I would like to avoid ripping out the tile and installing new tile backer board. Why can't I place new tile over the existing tile? I know I have to consider the additional highth at the threshold and will have to extend the toilet flange, but this is a lot less work than ripping out the old tile. Any reason not to do it? Any particular adhesive required other than standard latex modified thinset?

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So long as the tile is structurally sound and free of cracks you can tile over existing tile.


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it's better to start from scratch instead of depending on the existing tile, but it sometimes is only a small risk.
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TCA says you can install tile over tile so long as it is structurally sound and no cracks.
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I totally understand that.

My point is that most DIY'ers have a tough time determining a good substrate.
That is a good rule for pro's to live by, but may turn into a mess for the DIY'ers.

if you bounce a golf ball on the tiles from a low height, you can hear to see if there is a hollow sound, which may indicate that tile is not fully secured.
That is one of many pointers that can be used.
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how tough the job it is really to rip off existing tiles... in terms of man-hour per 100 sq. ft... any idea? I mean include scatching the surface and clean up until a true plywood surface is seen? I hate my kitchen tile so much and like to know this...
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it is one of the most time consuming things to deal with in flooring.
They make expensive machines just for this type of work.
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it is one of the most time consuming things to deal with in flooring.
They make expensive machines just for this type of work.

home depot also rents those machines rather inexpensively!
I had about 400 sqft of linoleum and nasty tile to remove.. old VCT. Ugh.
Rented a stripping machine for i think around 60 bucks. Took three hours (including a BS break 'cuz I have helpful, but snooping neighbors.)

Now they are somewhat heavy and a bit unwieldy, but it did the job.

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