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Old 09-01-2009, 05:30 PM   #1
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We're about to completely gut and re-do our 1977 kitchen. The cabinets are a done deal, but we're undecided on the flooring. I do a lot of cooking and there's a lot of foot traffic in there. I've heard ceramic is porous and can crack, porcelain is more durable and expensive, both are cold in the winter, and even the new vinyls can tear or pull. Hardwood is out. Currently, there are stick-down vinyl-type hard tiles Does this need to be taken out? Any suggestions on the new floor type?

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Old 09-02-2009, 08:51 AM   #2
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You seem to have some misinformation about ceramic tile. Glazed tile is not porous and will not crack unless it's installed improperly. The grout will be porous but can be sealed to overcome this issue. Porcelain tile isn't particularly more expensive then ceramic. It just depends on your choice in either catagory.
Unless your laying on the floor, the temperature, to me, would be of no concern. You can install radiant heat if that's an issue to you.
Tile requires more prep work and you need to know if the floor structure is adequate for tile.
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Old 09-02-2009, 09:27 AM   #3
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Look into electric wire grid radiant floor heat. Flooring needs to go in wall to wall before the new cabs to ensure proper counter top height and eliminate tedious excess trimming around cabinets.
Porcelain in my experience is a much tougher surface than most ceramic, maxing it brutal to drill through in comparison which is my only beef but the feedback I get is better durability.

For best future floor height The tile should be stripped to bare plywood if possible and a fresh smooth underlayment installed.

FYI before you install cabs be sure any outside wall behind is properly insulated and caulked to prevent drafts.
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Thanks for the reply's. I guess I just need to wrap my head around being without a kitchen longer than I thought. I think our sub-floor is in good shape, but we'll have to take up the present floor to check. I also appreciate the reminder about making sure the outside wall is properly insulated and caulked while we can get to it!
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As Ron indicated, you also need to check the structure of your floor, not just the subfloor.
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Will do. We have a friend who does a lot of flooring on the side, so I'm sure he'll make it right before laying something new down. We don't have any soft spots, so hopefully this won't be a nightmare project! Thanks again for the advice.
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Nuchange, I moved your unrelated question to a new thread titled "duraceramic" in the flooring subforum. It was hijacking this thread and is more likely to get answered for you as a new thread in the correct forum.

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