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Old 09-30-2009, 07:39 AM   #16
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You CAN NOT apply cement board or tile backer products directly to dimensional tongue and groove subfloor materials. The first time the weather changes the floor tile could erupt into rubble.

Plywood is needed to help to contain and control the slats.

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Old 09-30-2009, 07:56 AM   #17
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Sure now you tell me that, my whole house subfloor is 3/4" T&G
But bath & hallway that I tiled had plywood over them
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Old 09-30-2009, 09:16 AM   #18
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SORRY!!! I thought you knew!!!
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Old 09-30-2009, 09:25 PM   #19
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Eyeglass,

Yup you need min. 1/2" underlayment grade plywood over your 2x6" planks before you install the CBU. You never mentioned them until post #15.

Since your sub is 2x6 I'll assume you have one of those left coast pier & beam type construction, is that true? We may need to go over that if you do.

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Spent two days last week with a friend that knows a whole lot about tile installations and he tells me the fastest growing segment of the tile installation industry (nation-wide) is "Inspectors". Why do you suppose that is? In my opinion, it is because too many people are too willing to shoot from the hip and not follow the industry recommendations, they are lazy and willing to take shortcuts.
If you don't mind me asking, how does that work? As you say above, if you have access to the internet you "all the rules and recommendations right at his fingertips." So I'm going to hire someone to tile my floor, and I'm too lazy to see if his methods conform to industry standards, but I'm going to hire an inspector to do this for me? I'm cheap, so I'm going to hire a hack, but then pay for a third party inspector? Or is some "authority" requiring inspections (as much as I hate hacks, I hope not).
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Old 10-01-2009, 08:07 AM   #21
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Unfortunately there are few areas of the country that require any kind of inspection at construction time. The closest it comes has to do with shower receptors and water egress and that's about it.

It is only after a job fails that an inspector may get involved.

The industry is full of (so-called) professionals that have no clue about any of the standards. And trust me...there are standards.

The big box stores have been successful (over the years) in creating an environment that says anyone can install tile. "You can do it - we can help", "Let's build something together". When the truth is those stores have no knowledge of proper procedures either and they REFUSE to train their employees. When it comes to volume sales it's: "Damn the failures - Full speed ahead".

Seems everyone and their grandmother is installing tile these days.

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How does that work?
Truthfully, IT DOESN'T WORK!

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