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Old 12-08-2011, 05:58 PM   #106
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Berber carpet like that is almost always 12'2" wide, or close to it. It should also have the selvege edge on both sides. Maybe they cut it down to fit in their machine.
You have no idea how glad I am you said that Rusty.

The machine at HD will take at least 12' 2", as I am told that many of the carpets come in that width.

When I watched them using the machine to take the rolls off, I did note that it was considerably wider than the carpet, although it didn't mean anything at the time.

One of the rolls didn't come off very square, which the salesman pointed out, and the roll has a large indent in one end.

Next time I go there - which might be sooner rather than later - I will look and see if the berber has two heat sealed edges or not. And I will be taking my tape measure with me!

So, now it appears that they may have cut 9" off the width of the roll...?

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So, now it appears that they may have cut 9" off the width of the roll...?
Don't know why they would unless it was damaged.
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By the way if you are expecting the pieces that have been cut for you to have a square edge on them ...don't. If you take one end of the carpet fold it over itself and then line up the edges. Measure back from the front edge on both sides and you should be able to determine if it is square. Not sure if that makes easy sense, hope it does though.
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Don't know why they would unless it was damaged.
Using your logic of 12' 2" for a standard berber width, there is only 11' 5" left, which is 9" off.

As you say "unless it was damaged".

This is exactly the way the roll came from the factory, I watched them bring it around to the machine from their warehouse and load it on the machine. I don't think that HD cut this roll any narrower.
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By the way if you are expecting the pieces that have been cut for you to have a square edge on them ...don't. If you take one end of the carpet fold it over itself and then line up the edges. Measure back from the front edge on both sides and you should be able to determine if it is square. Not sure if that makes easy sense, hope it does though.
Makes perfect sense.

No, I definitely didn't think they would be square.

While I was watching them cut the rolls - which in itself was quite interesting - it did occur to me that the one roll which didn't load square would likely NOT be cut square. The machine cuts the whole 12' width in about 2 seconds, maybe even less.
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OK, I can't wait forever to get this little annoyance resolved, so I'm going ahead anyway with the installation.

I'll show you what I have got done since the last post.

I made a chalk line on the floor (underlay actually) at the 12' mark, anticipating that this is where the edge of the piece would reach, or close to it.

As you can very clearly see, the carpet is some 8 1/4" short of the mark.
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Please note in the above pic that there is a huge amount of extra carpet in the corner, which tapers off to nearly nothing at the other end.
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The hole is cut here, close to the tile ring.
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And the stove pipe is back in place.

Good thing you suggested that Rusty, now I know I need to clean the stove pipe!
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Well, the sun has set, Venus is about 8 above the horizon, it has been a frustrating day, and I'm going to cook some grub. Back a little later to let you know of the next little problem which has reared it's ugly head.
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OK, next problem.

Because the carpet is too narrow, it will cause the next piece of carpet to be 14" longer than originally anticipated.

The straightedge is sitting on the original 12' mark, and where the next piece of carpet needs to go there is a difference of 14".

I suppose a piece could be joined there, but that's not the best idea I don't think.

The next roll was cut to allow for the strip in front of the windows as well. It would be less of a crime to join there, as this is an area that will rarely be walked on.
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if it is at all possible to put your seams near a wall,I have found that to be best because 1 They don't get walked on so the seams hold up better 2) They usually are hidden with furniture that is generally set closer to the walls so the visual appeal is nicer as well. You seem to have thought it out well Keith. Despite all of the challenges presented to you by your local carpet distributor you are doing very well. If you do have to go to town to pick some things up keep in mind your need for more seaming tape as you have more seams than originally anticipated. By the way I like your chinese scissors, I have the same set and I find them to work well.
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It looks like I will have about 47 feet of seams. And that is adding in the unexpected seam as a result of the narrow carpet.

I'm hoping the 50' roll will be enough.
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If I were you I would be tempted to check the length of that seaming tape it could of been damaged and trimmed , then put back on the shelf Sorry I could not help myself.
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Most seam tapes are 60'.

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